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Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 2:50 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
seagull wrote:Living in Arizona 8 months a year and Rhode Island only 4 months, I sure do miss the seafood. I probably go through 2 dozen littleneck clams every week and steam up crabs and lobsters throughout the summer. When I get to Az in the fall, I have go through withdrawal for a few weeks.

I'm drooling just thinking about seafood.



Hey, good and fresh Sonoran Mexican is not too bad of a tradeoff as an option for those 8 months. I speak "redneck," and I speak a little Spanish. You have some great and fresh and healthy.....dependent upon your selection choices......Northern Mexican in your backyard.

Someone in AZ has to pay those guys to pick that lettuce though.....

(and "those guys" really earn that $$)

Thanks, Seagull , for now in this instant I realize how lucky I have been with regard to fresh seafood by living the past 1/3 of a century primarily in Florida, South Carolina and California.

Nothing against Asian countries, but I only buy seafood from Canada, the United States, or with regard to (Gulf of Mexico) shrimp.....Mexico.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 3:09 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Falls were not frozen, but for seeing them for the first time, I was still awe-struck. Satellite imagery of the full Falls complex leads me to believe that I need to see the Canadian side.

But best tout on Niagara Falls is that my California wife and California kids once all thought Disneyland was one of the finest places to be and see in America...and nearby Canada.

When I touted them on Niagara Falls and led them with me, they all had an OMG experience.

I've mentioned before, but on one spontaneous trip back to Ohio from California, we sped off to Niagara Falls on my suggested impulse. We were looking for a cheap but comfortable and safe motel room for the night, but none were vacant.

The Marriott on the Canadian side had only one room available as my wife was calling in the late afternoon from her cell.

It was a suite, "with a Falls view."

Best $190 I have ever spent. The kids barely slept that night because they were in the suite bedroom over The Falls mesmerized all night by the muted sounds and brilliant light and color and power.


"That Marriott" was built on a bluff in Canada that was forbidden for development in most of my life.

The Canadians relinquished to Marriott and let the hotel be built.

Not sure how it messed up the view from down below, but our view from up above in our room was incredible and priceless.

My wife and I were in the inside bedroom, and we still could hear the wonderful white sound of The Falls.....the Canadian Falls in our case....as we embraced slumber.

I love Niagara Falls, and it's natural touristy attractions.

(my fave Niagara Falls visits are to the museums of the dare devils to attempt to go over The Falls, but hey, that's just me)

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:17 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Bowling great Don Carter dies at 85


Associated Press

By STEVEN WINE | AP – 5 hrs ago

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FILE - In this April 20, 1959, file photo, Don Carter poses with his bowling bowl …
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FILE - In this Dec. 9, 1959 file photo, bowler Don Carter is shown during a tournament …

MIAMI (AP) — Don Carter, the bowling great with the unorthodox style who flourished as a genuine sports celebrity during the game's golden age on TV, has died. He was 85.

Carter died at his home in Miami on Thursday night, the Professional Bowlers Association said Friday. He recently was hospitalized with pneumonia complicated by emphysema.

Carter, known as "Mr. Bowling," was the game's original superstar. He became his sport's most recognizable name at a time when alleys were thriving across the country and bowling was starting to assert itself as a fixture on television. Carter was a leading force in the formation of the PBA in 1958 and became a charter member of the PBA Hall of Fame in 1975.

He had a style all his own as he took his steps to the line. With his stooped shoulders and cocked elbow, he made a deep knee bend as he unleashed the ball as if pushing it toward the pins.

Carter helped transform a sport that had been a blue-collar recreational activity. He ruled the lanes with the likes of Dick Weber, Ray Bluth, Pat Patterson, Carmen Salvino and Billy Welu. But Carter was clearly at another level. His name might not cast quite the light as such sports luminaries then as Mickey Mantle, Johnny Unitas or Arnold Palmer, but it was close.

"Don was the greatest bowler of his era," Bluth said. "There was no one like him."

He also did something that no one in baseball, football or golf ever did. He became the first athlete in American sports history to sign a $1 million marketing endorsement contract, with bowling ball manufacturer Ebonite in 1964.

"It is impossible to put into words what Don Carter meant to the PBA and the sport of bowling," PBA Commissioner Tom Clark said. "He was a pioneer, a champion and will never be forgotten."

The 6-foot, 200-pound Carter bowled five 800 series, 13 perfect games and six 299s in sanctioned play. He practically held a monopoly on bowling honors. He was voted Bowler of the Year six times (1953, 1954, 1957, 1958, 1960, 1962).

He served as the PBA's first president. He was inducted into the American Bowling Congress Hall of Fame in 1970. Carter was selected as the greats bowler in history in a 1970 Bowling Magazine poll. He ranked second to Earl Anthony in the magazine's poll in 2000 of the 20 greatest bowlers of the 20th century.

"Don was one of the greatest bowlers who ever lived, but he had some other things that made him great," Salvino said. "He was a great athlete. He won two 100-game tournaments in one year and I don't know how many other bowlers could take that kind of punishment. And he had the ability to focus better than anyone I've ever seen.

"On the lanes, he was in his own world, but off the lanes, he was a true gentleman," Salvino added. "I had a lot of respect for him, as a bowler and as a man."

Carter was born in St. Louis and was introduced to bowling when his mother treated him to a game of bowling on his 13th birthday.

"That was the biggest birthday present of my life," Carter once wrote in an article. "I enjoyed that one game so much that when one of my teachers started a bowling club after school, I signed up. Then I started setting pins so I could bowl and practice for free."

He played for the famous Budweisers of St. Louis, but his profile grew on television shows like Jackpot Bowling, Make That Spare and Championship Bowling that were watched by millions.

Carter wanted to create a bowling tour that was similar to the one in golf. The PBA was launched in 1959 with three tournaments. Three years later, it had a schedule of 32 events. Carter eventually won seven PBA titles including five major championships. Because of ailing knees, Carter retired from PBA play in 1972.

Carter also excelled at baseball, playing American Legion baseball with Yogi Berra and Joe Garagiola. After serving with the Navy during World War II in the South Pacific, he signed a minor league contract with the Philadelphia Athletics as a pitcher-infielder. But after a year, he returned to St. Louis and to bowling.

Carter married LaVerne Haverly in 1953. They divorced, and he married Paula Sperber in the 1970s. Both women are in the Women's International Bowling Congress Hall of Fame.

After retiring from bowling, Carter moved to Miami. He occasionally competed in pro-am tournaments in the 1990s, and he owned a chain of alleys and a line of bowling apparel. His hobbies included golf and painting, and he was involved in charity work for abused children.

Carter rarely ventured far from home in retirement, not caring for public speaking or air travel. But in the 1980s he appeared in Miller Lite commercials featuring retired sports stars.

"I really don't think anybody under the age of 65 remembers me," Carter said about those ads. "I'm really big with senior citizens. I'm famous because I'm the only guy to have two wives in the Hall of Fame."

In addition to his wife, Paula, Carter is survived by sons Jim and John, daughter Caycee, three grandchildren and five great grandchildren.

Details on memorial services are pending.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 3:29 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Carter rarely ventured far from home in retirement, not caring for public speaking or air travel. But in the 1980s he appeared in Miller Lite commercials featuring retired sports stars.

"I really don't think anybody under the age of 65 remembers me," Carter said about those ads. "I'm really big with senior citizens. I'm famous because I'm the only guy to have two wives in the Hall of Fame."


I'm 9 years plus younger than 65, and I remember watching Don Carter like yesterday.

I bowled on Saturdays from about age 11, and then graduated to adult leagues in college, and continued in men's leagues when I moved to South Carolina.

In South Carolina there were not many serious bowlers in the early and mid 1980's and it was cake to rule my men's league with what today would be a paltry 185 to 195 average.


When I was 12 and 13 and my team won our regular season league, and the next summer league, the female manager of the alley referred to me at the awards ceremony as a "regular Don Carter."

When I first moved to Miami in the late 1970's I used to frequent Don Carter's alley in the West Kendall section.

Maybe I'll dust off my dated bowling ball and shoes after I retrieve them from my closet area attic tomorrow, and go throw a couple of games with a nod to Don.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 3:17 pm
by VT'er
OK sports fans, let's have the over/under for Cali's recent trip to the lanes.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 2:38 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
VT'er wrote:OK sports fans, let's have the over/under for Cali's recent trip to the lanes.
If they offer an "over 150 but less than 185" that's where I'd put my $$ for my first game in many years.

Bowling technique is to bicycle riding and to swimming.


Thanks for the note....

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 12:52 pm
by Darkstar
Somehow, I think TFiSC(nC) would enjoy seeing these guys:

http://youtu.be/Ei5148-KPAI

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 1:07 pm
by J.R.
DS: I fixed your post. HTML doesn't work here. Use the buttons on top of the posting box. (Select text you want to modify, then hit button)

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:19 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Darkstar wrote:Somehow, I think TFiSC(nC) would enjoy seeing these guys:

http://youtu.be/Ei5148-KPAI
Yep, they had me at the 17 second mark. If I had to critique I'd offer that I prefer more voice, wind and/or strings. The rhythm percussion was a bit too dominant for my regular tastes, unless I was first tasting alcohol.


My wife just agreed to let me take her to see a Rat Pack tribute band at the Cal Neva formerly owned by Frank Sinatra on the weekend after Valentine's Day.

I conversed with the GM of the place at The Circle Bar in the late night hours on our trip earlier this week and he offered to hook me up with an upgrade to a balcony suite over the north shore of Lake Tahoe on our next visit. He also offered the Marilyn Monroe cabin, or the Frank Sinatra cabin. I'm opting for the top floor balcony.

That gives me a few weeks to find an apropos "Mad Men" suit to wear to the gig.

I'm no Don Draper, but seriously, I can't wait for the trip and am really looking forward to it.

My wife can come close to a January Jones, come to think of it.....

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:06 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
J.R. wrote:DS: I fixed your post. HTML doesn't work here. Use the buttons on top of the posting box. (Select text you want to modify, then hit button)
It's only slightly rumored that JR retired from teaching.

:-)

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:29 am
by Darkstar
Thanks for your help, J.R.. After .. uh 13+ years, these new-fangled buttons give me pause.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:51 am
by Darkstar
Cali

Concur on the heaviness of the rhythm. Seems like bad PA mix, or maybe just acoustics of the joint they're playing in.
Tribe Fan in SC/Cali wrote:
I'm no Don Draper, but seriously, I can't wait for the trip and am really looking forward to it.

My wife can come close to a January Jones, come to think of it.....
I cannot speak for your assessment of Mrs. TFiSC(nC) vis-a-vis the afore-mentioned Ms. Jones, but from the standpoint of Mr. Draper..well, let's just say I shall refrain from channeling my inner Lloyd Bentsen. :P

Regardless, sounds like a fun time, and I trust you and the Mrs. will enjoy it.

BTW: You got mail.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 4:43 am
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
There was a guy who graduated my high school three years before me, and all the hot junior and senior chicks when I arrived as a sophomore thought he was "all that."

I did theatre, and my mother admonished me to only hang around with girls backstage and in the dressing rooms because she did theatre semi-professionally in the late 40's until the early 60's and bought firmly into the stereotype of most men in theatre being gay.

She pushed me into theatre as I guess a borderline personality stage mother....as well as into baseball and football.

Of those three things, I met the most girls I made out with in theatre.

We did a local community theatre production of Cabaret between my Junior and Senior year and I always made certain I had alcohol in my 1967 Chevelle Malibu for the scantily clad Cabaret dancers after performance and show.

I wasn't very good at theatre, but I did get a kick out of the guys backstage who were taking Midol for their headaches.

That Cabaret summer I "made out" with two twin girls from Garfield in Akron at the same time. It was a good summer.


And theatre is great.


Back to the initial subject of the guy from my high school, I caught one of his productions on The Indie Channel tonight.....and it was quickly unwatchable.

Jim Jarmusch is the guy some of the girls initially thought was "all that."


The movie was Coffee and Cigarettes.

I'm all into avant garde and that crap, but most of that work was just lazy and stupid.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:40 pm
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
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I was at the Cal Derby today at Golden Gate Fields. Click the pic and hear the track bugler. I couldn't get my iPhone video rolling as soon as I would have liked, but the part of his tune before the call to the post is easily recognizable. He adds his personal touch before each post call.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:44 pm
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
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Yep, Seagull, I solidly had the winner. If Darkstar looks closely at his email he'll see I mentioned last night I was planning to wager on Russian Greek. The horse looked great in the paddock (above) and Jerry Hollendorfer was on hand to saddle the horse himself. Jerry is from Akron and runs horse most days at both the SoCal tracks and the NorCal tracks. Anytime he's personally on hand to tend in the paddock, you know he wants to win.

Right now Russian Greek appears to be a possible 2012 Kentucky Derby candidate for him.

The last race ended before 5PM, but Golden Gate Fields officials kept the clubhouse open and extra 45 minutes so fans could view the 49ers game with The Saints until the final play.

It was a good day.