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Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:42 pm
by TFIR
LOL, this was written about Schwarber earlier in the offseason:

Jesse Rogers of ESPN.com hears that Kyle Schwarber "has been on a mission this offseason to transform his body."

Rogers writes that Schwarber wants to "get back to being a hitter -- not just a slugger," but surely he also wants to improve his conditioning if he's going to play the outfield again. Being another year removed from his knee surgery will surely help. Schwarber is often mentioned as a potential trade candidate, but the Cubs might not be interested in selling low.

Schwarber batted .211/.315/.467 with 30 homers in 129 games this season, but he was much better after returning from his demotion in July. Nov 28 - 12:06 PM
Source: ESPN.com

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 2:46 pm
by TFIR
HB - was only kidding with the whiff king post

Seriously though the Schwarber situation:

1. He is not a good outfielder - converted catcher. At catcher...hmm...could he be moved back there?
2. He hit much better in the 2nd half last year but overall it certainly was a way down year
3. In actuality, teams still are really high on him, especially an AL team that could DH him
4. He is likely worth more than Salazar

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:18 pm
by J.R.
Ozuna to Cards. See Articles.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:18 pm
by civ ollilavad
ex-catchers are generally excatchers for a reason.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 3:41 pm
by TFIR
Just saw Tito on MLB Network.

Of course Tito always defends his player but you can read between his lines pretty easily on Kipnis.

There is no way Kipnis goes back to 2B.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:40 pm
by TFIR
Shawn Armstrong - R - Mariners

Mariners acquired RHP Shawn Armstrong from the Indians for international slot money.

Armstrong posted an underwhelming 4.38 ERA and 20/10 K/BB ratio in 24 2/3 innings this past season with Cleveland, but the 27-year-old right-hander should be in the running for one of the last few Opening Day bullpen spots next spring in Mariners camp. He is out of minor league options.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:49 pm
by civ ollilavad
That's surprising. I know he underwhelmed with his erratic command, but he throws hard and is very young; I thought we'd give him a good chance to move into a bigger role with Shaw gone. The Mariners had been collecting international signing bonus money in previous to give them a shot at Otani. Now they're swapping it away.
We now have room on the roster to participate in the Rule 5 draft, but more importantly to add a free agent.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 4:57 pm
by civ ollilavad
Indians.com not yet aware of the move.

nor is Mariners.com but the latest report there is that the Mariners are after relief pitchers. They found one.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:20 pm
by seagull
Is that international signing bonus money like bitcoin?

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 5:36 pm
by J.R.
From Hoynes:

Indians trade RHP Shawn Armstrong to Seattle for $500,000 in international bonus pool money. Armstrong is out of options.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:44 pm
by Hillbilly
Bruce Drennan said this evening that he doesn't think Schwarber is who the Indians want. He thinks it's Baez. Last year Baez played every position in the infield, and even a game in the OF. He is the kind of guy Tito loves.

Interesting take, may be.

I would also add that Lindor and Baez grew up together and are great friends.

And would also add that Kipnis is from Chicago.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:50 pm
by Hillbilly
Joe Smith just signed with Astros.

When you hear players talk about how much they love Cleveland, just know they are saying love me while I'm here but I'm gone as soon as someone offers me 5 bucks more, or less.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:53 pm
by Hillbilly
So we lose Smith and Shaw. Trade Armstrong for a song.

Both Allen and Miller can be free agents next year, right?

Maybe they aren't looking to deal Salazar and are planning on moving him to pen?

Now he'll be traded tomorrow. Just to confuse me more.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:28 pm
by Hillbilly
Zack Meisel‏ @ZackMeisel
Chris Antonetti says the Indians thought they were close to a trade last night, but it didn't happen. He said he gave the opposing GM an answer he didn't like, and received a colorful GIF in response.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 9:41 pm
by seagull
The other team wanted Michael Martinez as part of the deal. Antonetti not only said NO, but Hell NO.