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Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:07 pm
by Hillbilly
Urshela has a 13 game hitting streak, and has reached base in 21 straight games.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:28 pm
by civ ollilavad
That's surprising. Are you sure there's not something else to that like "to go 7 2/3 innings and not allow more than 1 run" in each of his first 3 starts?

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 6:07 pm
by Hillbilly
Jordan Bastian @MLBastian:
Cody Anderson is the 1st Indians starter in team history to go at least 7.2 IP in each of his first 3 career starts with the club.

Jordan Bastian @MLBastian:
Before Anderson, last MLB pitcher to start career with 3 straight starts with 7.2 IP was Tim Wakefield for the Pirates in 1992.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:20 pm
by seagull
81 down ....81 to go.

5 games under .500

Not enough bats.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:41 pm
by J.R.
Jordan Bastian @MLBastian:
Cody Anderson is the 1st Indians starter in team history to go at least 7.2 IP in each of his first 3 career starts with the club.


Is that right? I thought back in the day they didn't use many relief pitchers. You'd think Feller or Lemon would have done that, and several before their time.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:30 am
by Hillbilly
I hear ya guys. You would think with the stellar SP's we've had come up with our club, and the way they used to ride the starters that someone would have done it before. Bastian works for MLB though so he may be right.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:52 am
by civ ollilavad
At BaseBallReference.com, I checked out Feller, Lemon, Wes Ferrell and Stan Coveleskie. It looks like none of them reached that inning mark in all their first 3 starts. Coveleskie's 3rd start is listed as a 5 inning shutout, so it must have been stopped by rain. In his Cleveland career debut was a 12 inning complete game in 1916. Feller and Lemon debuted with some very short, very ineffective starts.

So apparently Cody is a lock on the Hall of Fame.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:54 am
by civ ollilavad
not bad for our No. 10 ranked prospect whose ERA for Akron last season was well over 5.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:57 am
by Hillbilly
Actually, if you would have asked me, the first two guys I would have thought of to have accomplished that would have been Cy Young and Luis Tiant. Way back when Young came up with Cleveland starters ruitinely pitched the entire game. And Tiant was a beast right out of the gate I thought. (before my time tho)

Herb Score would have come to mind too, as being a beast right out of the gate.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:17 pm
by civ ollilavad
Tiant's debut, as I recall, being much older, was a little slower than that. I knew his APBA card for 1965 only rated him a C. I will look up Herb and Luis and Cy if they have his game records.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:21 pm
by civ ollilavad
Tiant's first start lasted 3 innings, next was 7.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:23 pm
by civ ollilavad
Herb's first was 9, then 8, but then 6.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:25 pm
by civ ollilavad
Young pitched for the Cleveland National League team, not the Indians. Plus Baseball Reference doesn't have logs for his rookie season in 1890. Lazy bums.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 3:28 pm
by Hillbilly
Cy Young pitched for what became the Cleveland Indians. It was the Spiders when he pitched for them. Now the original owners, brothers, went broke and sold, and the team bounced around between leagues, major & minor, early on, but it's the same franchise.

Forest Citys of Cleveland ... Cleveland Blues ... Cleveland Spiders ... Then they were called the Infants & Babes or some such nonsense ... I think they were even the Blue Birds at some point in that mess. .... Cleveland Naps ... Cleveland Indians.

The team didn't become a major league team to stay until 1901 and the team history officially starts there. But to me, Cy Young pitched for Cleveland in the majors.

Re: General Discussion

Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 4:28 pm
by VT'er
I thought back in the day they didn't use many relief pitchers.
Here's my guess: I don't think they did--that is, not so much of this matchup & "Nth-inning-role" stuff. A reliever came in and likely finished the game, for better or worse. So starters perhaps failed to finish games at the same rate, but the number of relievers used in any game was lower.

It seems to me that Bruce Sutter used to get a lot of 2- or 3-inning saves, but maybe that's wishful remembering.