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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:33 pm
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Marlins Pitchers Jesús Luzardo, Edward Cabrera Could Hit Trade Block This Offseason

The Miami Marlins are entering the start of a new era, meaning they might not be done selling off key pieces just yet.

Originally posted on Fastball on SI | By Sam Connon | Last updated Dec 2, 2024 5:03 PM ET

MLB.com's Mark Feinsand wrote an article Sunday going through one potential trade candidate from each team. While he wound up selecting starting pitcher Jesús Luzardo for the Marlins, Feinsand noted that Miami might be more interested in dealing starting pitcher Edward Cabrera instead.

Luzardo made just 12 starts in 2024 due to elbow and back injuries, going 3-6 with a 5.00 ERA and 0.9 WAR. Over the previous two campaigns, though, Luzardo went 14-17 with a 3.48 ERA and 6.1 WAR in 40 total starts.

The 27-year-old left-hander is under team control for the next two seasons. Spotrac projected him to earn $8.6 million in arbitration for 2025, which would give him the second-largest salary on the Marlins' roster.

Cabrera was equally as shaky as Luzardo in 2024, going 4-8 with a 4.95 ERA and 0.7 WAR in 20 starts. He made 36 appearances between 2022 and 2023, putting up a 13-11 record, 3.73 ERA and 3.9 WAR along the way.

The right-hander, who is set to turn 27 years old in April, is projected to make $2.5 million in his first round of arbitration this winter. Cabrera won't hit free agency until after the 2028 campaign.

For as much promise as Luzardo and Cabrera have flashed at times, they have become expendable pieces in the Marlins' ongoing rebuild. The club already dealt away former All-Star starting pitcher Trevor Rogers to the Baltimore Orioles at the trade deadline, and they probably won't stop there.

Former Cy Young winner Sandy Alcántara is poised to return from Tommy John surgery and reestablish himself as Miami's ace. Top prospect Eury Pérez is also set to come back from Tommy John, while Braxton Garrett is hoping to return to form after an injury-riddled campaign of his own.

Ryan Weathers is looking to build upon his 3.63 ERA and 2.1 WAR from 2024 – his first full season as a starter. Valente Bellozo made his big league debut this year, and he impressed by going 3-4 with a 3.67 ERA and 1.5 WAR across 13 starts.

Then there are top prospects Adam Mazur and Max Meyer, neither of whom have found much success during their limited time in the majors in spite of their hype. Dax Fulton and Robby Snelling could get called up to make their respective MLB debuts in 2025 as well.

That gives the Marlins seven to nine options to fill five starting rotation spots, without even counting Luzardo or Cabrera. If manager Clayton McCullough and his new staff are comfortable moving off of one or both of them, Miami could continue its teardown in short order.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 12:54 pm
by joez
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Rotation projection has Guardians adding World Series Champion pitcher

By James Mastrucci|Dec 6, 2024

The most pressing need for the Cleveland Guardians this offseason is their starting rotation. Cleveland has already lost Matthew Boyd to the Chicago Cubs, and even if they were to somehow re-sign Shane Bieber, they would be without his services for a considerable amount of 2025. This means the Guardians must absolutely add a quality arm this offseason and a recent suggestion would make a ton of sense.

Appearing as part of Joel Reuter's Predicting Every MLB Team's 2025 Opening Day Starting Rotation, Version 1.0 on Bleacher Report, it is predicted that the Guardians will bring Andrew Heaney into their pitching mix.

(Note: Shane Bieber does not make an appearance in any team's rotation prediction).
"History tells us they are not going to break the bank, but Andrew Heaney would be a nice addition if he can be had for something similar to the two-year, $25 million deal he signed with the Texas Rangers two years ago."
Joel Reuter
The rest of Cleveland's rotation would feature Tanner Bibee, Gavin Williams, Ben Lively, and Triston McKenzie, with Heaney sliding into the second spot. This would give the Guardians a much more formidable group than what they trotted out for most of 2024 and could certainly go a long way in their efforts to repeat as American League Central Champions.

Heaney finished 2024 with a 4.28 ERA, 1.250 WHIP, and 8.9 strikeouts per nine innings, and while these may not be the most exciting numbers, it is definitely serviceable and serviceable could go a long way for the Guardians in their current state. The 11-year veteran posted similar numbers the year prior (4.15 ERA, 1.378 WHIP, 9.2 K/9), and this came during a season that resulted in the Texas Rangers winning the World Series, so this level of pitching can be beneficial in the right situation, and that situation very well could be Cleveland in 2025.

Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 08, 2024 1:04 pm
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Guardians identified as potential suitor for World Series Champion pitcher

By James Mastrucci|Nov 1, 2024

With the book now closed on the 2024 season following the conclusion of the World Series, the offseason is upon us. The 29 teams that were not the last team standing will be looking for ways to get better this offseason, and if there is one area that stands out for the Cleveland Guardians, it is their starting rotation.

The Guardians were working with a pieced together on the fly and still managed to win 92 games, the American League Central, and advance to the ALCS, not bad for a pitching group that clearly overachieved their collective talent level. If they are going to match and surpass their success in 2024 next season, they will need to add at least one starting pitcher. With that in mind, it is not a surprise to see Cleveland named as a potential landing spot for Walker Buehler.

Appearing as one of 10 spots in a list compiled by Bleacher Report's Kerry Miller, Cleveland comes in at the 8 spot in Ranking Dodgers' Walker Buehler's Top 10 Landing Spots Ahead of MLB Free Agency. It is the state of Cleveland's rotation and the pitching pipeline that is tapped out currently as to why they make the list.
"With Shane Bieber out of the picture and both Logan Allen and Triston McKenzie having rough 2024 seasons, this rotation gets problematic in a hurry beyond Tanner Bibee—with basically nothing down on the farm ready to contribute any time soon, either."
Kerry Miller
Obviously, the fit makes sense, but as Miller also points out, very few expect the Guardians to spend this much money on a free agent pitcher, calling it laughable and pointing out the last time they did it was Kerry Wood all way back in 2008 (two-years $20 million). Going off past track record in this particular situation makes sense, and considering the fact that Cleveland has been able to rely on their pitching pipeline for so long, it has allowed them to do so. However, with no reinforcements on the way, they are going to have to step out of their comfort zone, and now is the time to do it.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Mon Dec 09, 2024 3:03 pm
by rusty2
Cubs Sign Matthew Boyd
By Nick Deeds | December 9, 2024 at 8:25am CDT

DECEMBER 9: The Cubs made Boyd’s signing official on Saturday and Robert Murray of FanSided (X link) has the full contract details today. Boyd gets a $5MM signing bonus and a salary of $7.5MM in 2025, followed by a $14.5MM salary in 2026. There is a $2MM buyout on a $15MM mutual option for 2027. As for the bonuses, Boyd gets $100K for getting to 80, 90, 100, 110 and 120 innings pitched in each season.

Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2024 1:06 pm
by civ ollilavad
Who is By James Mastrucci? ESPN? MlB? Baseball America? the Athletic? some blogger who knows as much as us?

Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2024 10:58 pm
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Cubs Interested In Jesus Luzardo

By Mark Polishuk | December 14, 2024 at 1:40pm CDT

The Cubs already added Matthew Boyd to their rotation this winter but remain interested in adding another prominent name (if not someone at the top of the free agent market) to a starter group that already includes Shota Imanaga, Justin Steele, and Jameson Taillon as the top three. Such trade and free agent targets as Luis Castillo and Walker Buehler have been linked to Chicago already, and USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports that the Cubs have also shown interest in Marlins left-hander Jesus Luzardo.

Reports surfaced during the Winter Meetings about some teams checking in on Luzardo’s services, as it could be that teams were investigating a buy-low possibility. Luzardo has been mentioned as a potential trade candidate even before the Marlins entered their latest teardown, and had he been healthy in 2024, it is quite possible he would’ve already been shipped off to a different team prior to the last trade deadline. Unfortunately for Luzardo and the Marlins, he was limited to 12 starts and 66 2/3 innings due to elbow problems and repeated back problems, including as a stress reaction in his lower back.

Injuries have essentially been the story of Luzardo’s career over his six Major League seasons with the A’s and Marlins. He has 512 innings pitched across parts of those six seasons, with 178 2/3 of those frames coming in 2023. Luzardo’s career 4.29 ERA includes a lot of peaks and valleys, with struggles in 2021 and 2024 undermining his otherwise above-average numbers.

The inconsistency resulted in lowering Luzardo’s price tag as he entered his arbitration years, and MLBTR projects him to earn $6MM this winter in his second of three arb-eligible seasons. If he can replicate his 2023 form, his 2025-26 salaries will be a significant bargain for the Marlins or whatever team Luzardo is pitching for, and he is only entering his age-27 season.

The upside here is obvious, except the obvious concern for any interested teams is that they don’t know what version of Luzardo will show up in 2025. This could make it hard for Miami to land on an acceptable trade package with the Cubs or any other team, simply because the Marlins naturally want to get as much as they can in return for one of their top trade chips. Waiting until the deadline might be the wiser tack for Peter Bendix’s front office, as while Luzardo runs the risk of getting hurt again, a healthy and effective first half would restore his trade value.

670 The Score’s Bruce Levine reports that Miami is looking for a “young controllable bat back” in a Luzardo deal, and suggests that the Cubs would have to give up a top prospect like Owen Caissie or James Triantos. Considering those two are both within the top 55 of MLB Pipeline’s rankings of the top minor leaguers in all of baseball, it would be bold on Chicago’s part to move Caissie or Triantos for an injury-prone pitcher coming off a 5.00 ERA season.

Then again, the Marlins scored a nice trade package for another oft-injured, inconsistent pitcher at the last deadline when they got Connor Norby and Kyle Stowers from the Orioles for Trevor Rogers. While the deal raised eyebrows at the time, it underscored the value that teams put on controllable pitching. Of course, the fact that Rogers heavily struggled after the trade to Baltimore also highlights the risk involved in such trades. The Cubs have already shown their aggression this winter by trading for Kyle Tucker, and might be willing to dip into their deep farm system again in order to make a potentially huge rotation upgrade. Assuming that the likes of Caissie or Triandos are even on the table in potential trades, Chicago might prefer to opt to move those kinds of prospects only for a more reliable pitcher.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 11:43 am
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(Are you kidding me?




Phillies get Luzardo for 2 prospects in trade with Marlins (sources)

The Phillies will acquire left-handed starter Jesús Luzardo from the Marlins in exchange for two prospects, sources told MLB.com's Mark Feinsand and Christina De Nicola on Sunday. The team has not confirmed the trade, which has shortstop Starlyn Caba (Phillies' No. 4 prospect) and outfielder Emaarion Boyd (Phillies' No. 23 prospect) heading to Miami.

The Phillies will also acquire Minor League catcher/outfielder Paul McIntosh from the Marlins, per Feinsand.

TRADE DETAILS

Phillies get: LHP Jesús Luzardo, Minor League C/OF Paul McIntosh
Marlins get: SS Starlyn Caba (PHI No. 4 prospect), OF Emaarion Boyd (PHI No. 23)


Luzardo, who is entering his age-27 season, owns a career 4.29 ERA with 559 strikeouts over 105 MLB appearances (89 starts). The injury bug limited him to just 12 starts and a 5.00 ERA in '24. He missed two weeks in late April/early May with left elbow tightness, then got scratched from his June 22 start due to a season-ending lumbar stress reaction.

But he was an above-average starter from 2022-23, posting a 3.48 ERA (129 ERA+) in 50 starts over those two seasons, which also included a start against the Phillies in Game 1 of the 2023 NL Wild Card Series.

Luzardo is eligible for arbitration for the third time this offseason and is under club control through 2026.

( WTF !! )

The one pitcher beside Sasaki that I wanted this winter was Luzardo.
To think he was had for two prospect, neither of which were pitchers.
Our pitching staff could have turned this guy's fortunes around.
I have no doubt about that.
He would have been a perfect fit here.
The missing link to our pitching staff.
This really sucks.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:20 pm
by joez
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BREAKING: Miami Marlins Trade Lefty Jesus Luzardo to Philadelphia Phillies

The Marlins have shocked the baseball world by dealing Luzardo within the division.

Brady Farkas | 1 Hour Ago

he Miami Marlins have shocked the baseball world by trading potential ace lefty Jesus Luzardo to the Philadelphia Phillies for two prospects.

The idea of trading Luzardo isn't the shocking part, as the team has been open to moving him all offseason, but it is surprising to see him traded within the division.

Jim Bowden originally had the news on social media, with Spotrac posting the full return in one spot:

MLB TRADE

#Phillies Acquire
SP Jesus Luzardo
2025: $8.6M (proj. arb salary)
2026: Arb 4
2027: UFA


#Marlins Acquire
SS Starlyn Caba (#4 prospect)
OF Emaarion Boyd (#23 prospect)


This move sends a further message that the Marlins don't plan to be competitive in 2025. That's a disappointing outcome because Miami made the playoffs in 2023 and then suffered massive injury attrition in 2024. The idea of the team rebounding to be respectable in 2025 with better health isn't totally out of the question, but the Marlins are pre-emptively telling their fans that they are playing for the future.

They already traded slugger Jake Burger this offseason.

The 27-year-old Luzardo made just 12 appearances in 2024, going 3-6 with a 5.00 ERA, but he was better in a 10-win 2023 campaign. Lifetime, he's 26-34 with a 4.29 ERA.

As for the return? Caba isn't expected to make his major league debut until 2027, per MLB.com. Boyd isn't expected to debut until 2026, which further delays the team's chances at competitiveness.

The Phillies will now pair Luzardo with Zack Wheeler, Ranger Suarez, Christopher Sanchez and Aaron Nola in the starting rotation, giving them one of the best groups in all of baseball.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:26 pm
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Philadelphia Phillies Complete Blockbuster Trade with Marlins for New Ace

The Philadelphia Phillies have added to their rotation by completing a trade with the Miami Marlins for a new ace pitcher.

Kade Kistner | 1 Hour Ago

The Philadelphia Phillies have finally made their much-anticipated splash this winter.

On Sunday morning, the Phillies completed a blockbuster trade with the Miami Marlins for starting pitcher Jesus Luzardo according to Robert Murray of FanSided, an arm that has ace-like stuff and has already flashed some of that same potential.

According to Mark Feinsand of MLB.com, the return for the Marlins is significant with Philadelphia letting go of their fourth ranked prospect in Starlyn Caba 23rd ranked prospect Emaarion Boyd.

Luzardo has compiled a career 4.29 ERA with a 1.252 WHIP over 512.0 career innings with Miami and the Oakland Athlertics.

This is a clear sign that the Phillies are doubling down on having a deep rotation that already includes Cy Young contending aces such as Aaron Nola and Zack Wheeler.

With a deep NL East, Philadelphia had to make a significant move this winter to keep up with the changing landscape in the division. Luzardo was a name that has been mentioned in trade talks for years, and Philadelphia always seemed to be included.

With a very hot trade market this winter and no prospect of contending, Miami was always likely to sell their prized asset in Luzardo. The Phillies seemingly were reluctant to part ways with top prospects earlier this winter and it is now clear why.

The Phillies can now boast one of, if not the best rotation in baseball and should once again be favorites to win the NL East.

On Sunday morning, the Phillies got a lot better.


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:38 pm
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Phillies Acquire Jesus Luzardo

By Nick Deeds MLBTR | December 22, 2024 at 8:40am CDT

The Phillies are acquiring left-hander Jesús Luzardo from the Marlins, according to a report from Robert Murray of Fansided. According to Craig Mish of the Miami Herald, the Marlins will receive shortstop prospect Starlyn Caba and outfield prospect Emaarion Boyd in the deal. Matt Gelb of The Athletic adds that the Phillies are receiving minor league catcher Paul McIntosh in the deal alongside Luzardo. The teams have since announced the trade.

Luzardo, 27, is coming off something of a lost season but was among the most coveted starters available on the trade market as recently as last winter. The southpaw made just 12 starts in 2024 due to a lumbar stress reaction and struggled when he was healthy enough to take the mound with a 5.00 ERA (91 ERA+) in 66 2/3 innings of work. While Luzardo maintained a solid 8% walk rate, his 21.2% strikeout rate was far below his career norms and his fastball velocity was more than a tick below where it was in 2023.

Even with those warts, however, it’s easy to see why Luzardo would be an attractive addition to the rotation for the Phillies. In 279 innings of work for the Marlins between 2022 and ’23, Luzardo dominated to the tune of a 3.48 ERA (129 ERA+) with a 3.40 FIP. His 96.7 mph average fastball velocity was near the top of the scale for left-handed starting pitchers, and his 28.7% strikeout rate ranked eighth among starters with at least 250 innings of work in that time, sandwiched between Dylan Cease and Shane McClanahan.


While there’s no guarantee Luzardo will be able to recapture that ace-level production he flashed prior to his injured 2024 season, the Phillies won’t need to rely on him for front-end production. Instead, Luzardo joins an incredibly deep Phillies rotation that already features Zack Wheeler, Aaron Nola, Ranger Suárez, and Cristopher Sánchez. Even a fully healthy and effective Luzardo would slot in as the #2 starter in that rotation between Wheeler and Nola, and even if the southpaw merely pitches to the peripherals (4.23 FIP, 4.33 SIERA) he posted during his injury-marred 2024 campaign he’d be a noticeable upgrade over Taijuan Walker, who pitched to an ugly 7.10 ERA in 83 2/3 innings of work this past season.

The Phillies have been known to have interest in adding rotation help this winter, though that was generally expected to come in the form of a depth piece who could pitch out of the bullpen or give Walker competition for the fifth starter spot, not unlike the club’s signing of right-hander Spencer Turnbull last winter. The acquisition of a player with Luzardo’s talent and pedigree obviously goes well beyond that, however, and surely pushes Walker into a long relief role to open the season assuming the rest of the rotation is healthy.

Adding Luzardo also eases the club’s long-term need for rotation help, as he’s under team control for the next two seasons. With Suarez scheduled to hit free agency following the 2025 season, it’s possible that the addition of Luzardo allows the Phillies to rely on some combination of Walker and top prospect Andrew Painter to round out their 2026 rotation. That would push the need for an additional starter off to the 2026-27 offseason, at which point both Walker and Luzardo himself will be eligible for free agency.

[ Right up the Guard's Allley - They love players under team control which makes this deal even more painful ]

For now, though, Luzardo is a cost-controlled addition to the Phillies’ rotation who figures to raise the group’s already impressive ceiling considerably. MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz projects Luzardo for an arbitration salary of just $6MM in 2025, a figure that pushes the Phillies’ payroll to the $285MM range and their luxury tax payroll up to $304MM per RosterResource. Notably, that pushes them past the highest $301MM tax threshold for next season, at which point the club is taxed at a 110% rate on any overages beyond $301MM in addition to their highest pick in the 2026 draft being pushed back ten spots.

In terms of the actual financial cost, then, bringing Luzardo into the fold figures to cost the Phillies something closer to $10.5MM between the southpaw’s salary and the tax bill that comes with it. It’s an unprecedented level of spending for the Phillies, and it’s not clear how much more room the club will have to manuever as it seeks to make further upgrades. Perhaps that’s why president of baseball operations Dave Dombrowski suggested the club was unlikely to make further major additions earlier this week, with a swingman for the pitching staff and a bench piece for the lineup highlighted as the club’s remaining priorities. The addition of Luzardo likely eliminates the need for a swingman by pushing Walker into that role, of course.

For the Marlins, the prize in this deal is Caba. Ranked as MLB Pipeline’s #81 prospect in the game and #54 at Baseball America, Caba just celebrated his 19th birthday earlier this month and looked solid in complex league play this year with a .254/.427/.335 slash line. While he offered little power, he walked more than he struck out and stole 37 bases in 45 attempts across 225 plate appearances at the level. Caba was promoted to Single-A down the stretch and struggled badly with a .179/.304/.190 slash line in 115 trips to the plate, though he still recorded more walks (16) than strikeouts (15). While he’s roundly projected for below-average power by prospecting services, he’s regarded as having the potential to be a special defender at shortstop and his impressive knack for plate discipline should give him a solid offensive floor.

Boyd, meanwhile, was the Phillies’ 11th-round pick in the 2022 draft. The 21-year-old hit just .239/.317/.331 in 400 trips to the plate at the High-A level in 2024, though he’s stolen 83 bases over the past two seasons due to elite speed and is regarded as a potentially plus defender in center field due to his wheels. That was enough to make him the #23 prospect in the Phillies organization, according to Pipeline. That said, Boyd currently offers minimal power and has a below average hit tool, though his contact-heavy approach and potential to grow into a little more power as he physically matures is enough to keep him on the radar as a potential big league contributor.

Also in the deal is McIntosh, who joins Luzardo in heading from Miami to Philadelphia. The 26-year-old isn’t considered to be much of a prospect, having been selected by the Marlins in the 34th round of the 2018 draft. He slashed .246/.340/.385 in 117 games with the Marlins’ Double-A affiliate in Pensacola this past season. For the Phillies, McIntosh should offer a solid glove-first option behind the plate to help guide the club’s young pitchers in the upper minors and perhaps provide some depth behind the club’s big league catching corps.

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Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:28 pm
by eocmcdoc
"BLOCKBUSTER TRADE" really? It's been that slow of an off season.

Re: Just Baseball: Major League teams OTHER THAN the Tribe

Posted: Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:28 pm
by rusty2
The type of headline you get when you post random bloggers. Lets see how many starts Luzardo makes this year,