Re: Cleveland Cavaliers
Posted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 11:26 am
LeBron James back in Cleveland? Should the Cavs trade Collin Sexton? Jason Lloyd’s Cavs mailbag
NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 7: Collin Sexton #2 of the Cleveland Cavaliers shoots the ball against the New York Knicks on November 7, 2021 at Madison Square Garden in New York, New York. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2021 NBAE (Photo by Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE via Getty Images)
By Jason Lloyd Jan 30, 2022 21
Note: Submitted questions have been lightly edited for clarity and length.
Not advocating for or against, simply asking … is LeBron coming back at some point a reality? — Brent W.
I will answer this as honestly and transparently as I can:
Here’s what I know: LeBron James and Cleveland — or, better yet, LeBron and Dan Gilbert — are square. They both needed each other to get where they wanted to go. Gilbert needed LeBron to win a championship, and LeBron needed Gilbert to spend enough to make delivering a championship here feasible. Each man delivered. They owe each other nothing.
I’ve written and said this before, but the first time I had someone with the Cavs tell me LeBron was leaving for Los Angeles was about four months after the championship in 2016. I was stunned. I spoke to Pat Riley recently for another piece I’m working on, and we got on the topic of LeBron.
“I think everybody knew that’s where he was going to end up,” Riley said of James in L.A. “It was that kind of life he wants to live: produce and be involved in entertainment.”
For multiple reasons, I tend to believe James will retire with the Lakers, but never say never. Could he come back and spend his final year in Cleveland? Sure, I suppose. His 17-year-old son Bronny’s basketball future plays a role in this as well. LeBron has not hidden the fact he’d love to play with his son in the NBA. He joked with me once, “I’d play one game (with Bronny) and retire.”
I’ll add another layer to this: When James returned the first time, I was told by multiple people that he “doesn’t like playing with kids.” You saw after he got here how fast the roster turned from young to old. Now look at the Lakers roster. James likes playing with vets who understand the game. This Cavs team is uber-talented, but it’s also uber-young.
James still has another year left on his deal and the Lakers aren’t trading him, so any thought of James coming back before summer 2023 is moot. He’s still playing at an incredibly high level, but what condition will he be in at 39? At 40?
For 20 years, the Cavs’ identity was tethered to LeBron. “We have to tank and be bad enough to possibly draft him. … We got him, now we have to win. … Oh no, we lost him. We have to get him back. … We got him back. Now we have to win a championship.”
Two decades of that. It’s the only time in professional sports I can recall a franchise being obsessed with a player like that, and for good reason. He’s one of the best. But the Cavs knew when LeBron left in 2018 that he couldn’t be the plan anymore, and they delivered faster than anyone thought possible. If LeBron wanted to return for a third tour at the end, fine. But I don’t think anyone at Cleveland Clinic Courts is worried about that right now.
Do you see the Cavs making any moves now that Lauri Markkanen is out? Dean Wade does decent enough filling in, but winning games when scoring less than 100 is not sustainable in today’s NBA. — Jacob P.
They’re going to make moves, yes, but I don’t believe it’s tied to Lauri Markkanen. He should be back by the end of February. It probably has more to do with losing Ricky Rubio and now having his $18 million contract as an easy trade vehicle to get something done. I agree they need more scoring and another creator. That’s where I believe their focus will be.
How realistic would it be for Collin Sexton to return for the playoffs, and how much should that factor into whether to trade him? — Chris C.
I don’t believe whatever slim chance he might have at returning will factor into their trade discussions. I previously wrote that the Cavs shopped Sexton last summer and couldn’t get the value they deemed he was worth. If they find something that they like, I believe they’d move him rather than hope he could be ready by April following knee surgery. It’s also an awfully big ask of a young player with zero postseason experience to play an important role in a playoff series after missing the entire season.
I’ve been hard on Sexton and the Cavs’ handling of him, but I believe there is a role for him on this new-look Cavs team as a bench scorer. The question, as always, will come down to money and if the two sides can agree. I already laid out how rare it is for players in his position to sign new deals with the teams that didn’t extend them after their third year. The Cavs are likely going to be a tax-paying team starting next season. How high are they willing to go for someone who is best suited to be a bench player?
Last spring, the Atlanta Hawks were the up-and-comers in the Eastern Conference. This year, not so much. What do the Cavs need to do to ensure they don’t replicate the “success” of last year’s Hawks? — Gary M.
Good question. This is the challenge with all young teams after enjoying a little bit of success: Can they keep the same focus? The Hawks are facing multiple issues. Clint Capela isn’t having the same impact on games defensively that he had last season, and offensively, no one has emerged to take the pressure off Trae Young.
This will be a challenge for the Cavs next season. This isn’t a finished product. They still need to get better on the wing, and I’m not sure how they can do it. But Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley, if healthy, should keep them near the top of the defensive rankings for years. Offensively, they already know they need another creator. That’s what this trade deadline is for.
Are the Cavs out of the running for Ben Simmons? If we add him, we’ll win the East. If we don’t, we’ll lose in the first few rounds of the playoffs. — Rama R.
I like Simmons, but I don’t know if he’s the difference between an NBA Finals appearance and a first-round exit, as you suggest. I believe the Cavs like him, too, but the Sixers have yet to waver from a staggeringly high price tag. The Cavs aren’t going to disassemble any of their three key pieces in a deal for him, and they don’t want to do anything right now that would disrupt the terrific chemistry they’ve built on the floor and in the locker room. I believe the Cavs will continue to be active in trade talks, but I’d be surprised if they wind up with Simmons.
Koby Altman deserves a ton of credit for not missing on draft picks. What other parts of the Cavs organization have contributed to that success? Is the player-development team particularly strong? Are the team’s scouts really good? How do you parse the organizational growth? — David M.
I asked a similar question to someone in the organization a few days ago. It’s a commitment to playing younger players even when they’re getting their heads beaten in and it’s a commitment from player-development coaches to put in the extra hours on guys who might not even make the roster or contribute much if they do.
Playing younger guys even when they make mistakes is complicated. Some coaches push back on that and believe you need to pull younger players out and bench them when they make mistakes to teach them accountability and show the rest of the locker room that the rookies will be held to the same standard. But it’s also true that game experience is often the best teacher and fastest way to improve. Ultimately, the Cavs played all of their youngsters through the growing pains and mistakes, and they’re reaping the benefits.
The Cavs have Rubio’s expiring contract and their three picks in this upcoming draft (and maybe Sexton) to deal. I’ve read about Caris LeVert and Eric Gordon as options, but who would you like them to go after? Or should we ride this out and re-sign Rubio? Would others in the league see moving Rubio as dirty, sorta like Boston moving Isaiah Thomas? He’s meant a lot to our success. — Jeffrey H.
This is nothing like the Isaiah Thomas situation in Boston. Rubio was here for only a couple of months and is on an expiring contract and out for the rest of the season. His contract is the perfect vehicle to get a deal done for a team short on cap space. Caris LeVert and Eric Gordon are realistic options because they’re on teams going nowhere. Regardless of names, the most important thing to consider is the Cavs are up against the tax line and have no intention of becoming a tax-paying team. The only way to accomplish that and add a player of significance is to move Rubio’s money.
How important has Sexton been to setting the organizational culture? The Cavs are a team of workers, and I’ve always seen Sexton as a consummate worker. Have the players followed his lead or is the team just choosing hard workers? — David M.
Sexton is indeed a ferocious worker, but I wouldn’t credit him for setting the organization’s culture. The Cavs have done a good job of identifying players without egos who are willing to put in the work.
Kevin Love reacts after hitting a 3-pointer in the first half against the Bucks on Jan. 26. (Tony Dejak / Associated Press)
Kevin Love looked salty about being subbed out in crunch time for Wade on Monday. We all know the Cavs suffer defensively when Love is out there against first-teamers, but are the Cavs better served during Markkanen’s absence to have their best bench scorer on the floor in crunch time? And … we need our rookie phenom to hit his free throws in crunch time. We’ve had two games in two weeks that could have been put away and weren’t. — Matthew S.
I was at Monday’s game, but I didn’t notice what you’re referencing. The only thing I can tell you is Kevin Love and the Cavs have an agreement that when he’s hot and feeling it, he wants the opportunity to close out games. That wasn’t the case Monday, however. Mobley did miss two big free throws at the end against the Knicks, but he also secured a big rebound after that. He’s shooting around 68 percent from the line this season, which is about what he shot last year at USC. It’s one of the areas he needs to improve, for sure.
The Cavs seem to be a different team without Rubio running the second unit. Would they lose Bird rights if they traded his expiring contract? Even with the injury, do you have a sense of whether he’ll be re-signed? Would that factor into trade decisions? Related but unrelated, with a James Harden–Ben Simmons sign-and-trade seemingly possible in the offseason, does that affect what the Cavs do with Sexton at the deadline? Does he become more viable as a sign-and-trade after the season with other pieces staying on the board, or is there more value in moving him with Rubio’s expiring contract to swing big? Or will the Cavs re-sign him (that feels unlikely, but what do I know)? — Ryan L.
Because Rubio is on an expiring contract, he has no value to the Cavs since he’s out for the season. I’d expect them to trade him before the deadline. Rubio wasn’t thrilled with the idea of coming to Cleveland immediately after the trade, but the Cavs talked to him about his role and he quickly bought in. The results were evident. He was a terrific fit here. The knee injury is a game-changer, however. It’s his second ACL tear in that knee, and at 31, I think it’s fair to wonder what kind of player he’ll be when he returns. Before the injury, I wrote in a mailbag that Rubio could still start for teams around the league. Now, I’m not sure what his future holds.
Has Lamar Stevens done enough this year to convince the brass to keep him around for the foreseeable future? He’s on a team-friendly, nonguaranteed deal for the next couple of years. Do you think the Cavs keep him around for the entire contract? — Tom S.
I’ve mentioned a couple of times now how impressed I’ve been with Lamar Stevens’ development and the Cavs’ ability to maximize his talent. They control his rights for two more years. At this point, I see no reason for him not being around.
Which team has the best chance of winning a ring in the next five years? — Jonathan L.
The answer to this question changes monthly, right? I would have given a much different answer in September. Right now, however, it has to be the Cavs. With their young talent under contract for the foreseeable future, ownership’s willingness to spend into the tax and the stability at head coach and GM, the Cavs are in great shape.
Brad Daugherty brings some welcome basketball insight and commentary to the Bally Sports broadcast team. Is he being groomed to replace Austin Carr? — Michael C.
I’ve heard nothing to this point about Carr retiring. Daugherty is fairly busy. I’m not sure his schedule would allow him to be a full-time analyst, anyway. But he brings a fresh perspective to the telecasts he joins. I like it.
Does Rajon Rondo sufficiently cover for Rubio in the Cavaliers’ scheme of things or might an upgrade be acquired? — Jim R.
Rondo was an emergency add because the Cavs needed someone else who could dribble and bring the ball up the floor. Darius Garland was out at the time, and Rubio went down with the knee injury. It was a great Band-Aid, and Rondo has a little more left in the tank than I thought. But the Cavs could probably do a little better at the deadline to upgrade that spot.
Question about the ’80s-’90s Cavs: Is there any reason Ron Harper is overlooked when talking about the Cavs from that era? It seems like he’s rarely talked about as a Cavs player from that time. — Gil R.
He probably isn’t mentioned much because of the trade. I’ve often wondered how those Cavs teams would’ve fared differently had Ron Harper remained in town.
Do you think the Cavs are actively shopping their first-round pick this year? Or are they more likely to hold on to it to see if they can get someone in the high 20s (wink, wink) who can add to the young core? — Matt S.
That pick is far more valuable to them in trade than it is in drafting someone to add. Because you’re right: The way this is going, it’s not going to be a lottery pick. I’d expect them to move it at the deadline.
NEW YORK, NY - NOVEMBER 7: Collin Sexton #2 of the Cleveland Cavaliers shoots the ball against the New York Knicks on November 7, 2021 at Madison Square Garden in New York, New York. NOTE TO USER: User expressly acknowledges and agrees that, by downloading and/or using this Photograph, user is consenting to the terms and conditions of the Getty Images License Agreement. Mandatory Copyright Notice: Copyright 2021 NBAE (Photo by Jesse D. Garrabrant/NBAE via Getty Images)
By Jason Lloyd Jan 30, 2022 21
Note: Submitted questions have been lightly edited for clarity and length.
Not advocating for or against, simply asking … is LeBron coming back at some point a reality? — Brent W.
I will answer this as honestly and transparently as I can:
Here’s what I know: LeBron James and Cleveland — or, better yet, LeBron and Dan Gilbert — are square. They both needed each other to get where they wanted to go. Gilbert needed LeBron to win a championship, and LeBron needed Gilbert to spend enough to make delivering a championship here feasible. Each man delivered. They owe each other nothing.
I’ve written and said this before, but the first time I had someone with the Cavs tell me LeBron was leaving for Los Angeles was about four months after the championship in 2016. I was stunned. I spoke to Pat Riley recently for another piece I’m working on, and we got on the topic of LeBron.
“I think everybody knew that’s where he was going to end up,” Riley said of James in L.A. “It was that kind of life he wants to live: produce and be involved in entertainment.”
For multiple reasons, I tend to believe James will retire with the Lakers, but never say never. Could he come back and spend his final year in Cleveland? Sure, I suppose. His 17-year-old son Bronny’s basketball future plays a role in this as well. LeBron has not hidden the fact he’d love to play with his son in the NBA. He joked with me once, “I’d play one game (with Bronny) and retire.”
I’ll add another layer to this: When James returned the first time, I was told by multiple people that he “doesn’t like playing with kids.” You saw after he got here how fast the roster turned from young to old. Now look at the Lakers roster. James likes playing with vets who understand the game. This Cavs team is uber-talented, but it’s also uber-young.
James still has another year left on his deal and the Lakers aren’t trading him, so any thought of James coming back before summer 2023 is moot. He’s still playing at an incredibly high level, but what condition will he be in at 39? At 40?
For 20 years, the Cavs’ identity was tethered to LeBron. “We have to tank and be bad enough to possibly draft him. … We got him, now we have to win. … Oh no, we lost him. We have to get him back. … We got him back. Now we have to win a championship.”
Two decades of that. It’s the only time in professional sports I can recall a franchise being obsessed with a player like that, and for good reason. He’s one of the best. But the Cavs knew when LeBron left in 2018 that he couldn’t be the plan anymore, and they delivered faster than anyone thought possible. If LeBron wanted to return for a third tour at the end, fine. But I don’t think anyone at Cleveland Clinic Courts is worried about that right now.
Do you see the Cavs making any moves now that Lauri Markkanen is out? Dean Wade does decent enough filling in, but winning games when scoring less than 100 is not sustainable in today’s NBA. — Jacob P.
They’re going to make moves, yes, but I don’t believe it’s tied to Lauri Markkanen. He should be back by the end of February. It probably has more to do with losing Ricky Rubio and now having his $18 million contract as an easy trade vehicle to get something done. I agree they need more scoring and another creator. That’s where I believe their focus will be.
How realistic would it be for Collin Sexton to return for the playoffs, and how much should that factor into whether to trade him? — Chris C.
I don’t believe whatever slim chance he might have at returning will factor into their trade discussions. I previously wrote that the Cavs shopped Sexton last summer and couldn’t get the value they deemed he was worth. If they find something that they like, I believe they’d move him rather than hope he could be ready by April following knee surgery. It’s also an awfully big ask of a young player with zero postseason experience to play an important role in a playoff series after missing the entire season.
I’ve been hard on Sexton and the Cavs’ handling of him, but I believe there is a role for him on this new-look Cavs team as a bench scorer. The question, as always, will come down to money and if the two sides can agree. I already laid out how rare it is for players in his position to sign new deals with the teams that didn’t extend them after their third year. The Cavs are likely going to be a tax-paying team starting next season. How high are they willing to go for someone who is best suited to be a bench player?
Last spring, the Atlanta Hawks were the up-and-comers in the Eastern Conference. This year, not so much. What do the Cavs need to do to ensure they don’t replicate the “success” of last year’s Hawks? — Gary M.
Good question. This is the challenge with all young teams after enjoying a little bit of success: Can they keep the same focus? The Hawks are facing multiple issues. Clint Capela isn’t having the same impact on games defensively that he had last season, and offensively, no one has emerged to take the pressure off Trae Young.
This will be a challenge for the Cavs next season. This isn’t a finished product. They still need to get better on the wing, and I’m not sure how they can do it. But Jarrett Allen and Evan Mobley, if healthy, should keep them near the top of the defensive rankings for years. Offensively, they already know they need another creator. That’s what this trade deadline is for.
Are the Cavs out of the running for Ben Simmons? If we add him, we’ll win the East. If we don’t, we’ll lose in the first few rounds of the playoffs. — Rama R.
I like Simmons, but I don’t know if he’s the difference between an NBA Finals appearance and a first-round exit, as you suggest. I believe the Cavs like him, too, but the Sixers have yet to waver from a staggeringly high price tag. The Cavs aren’t going to disassemble any of their three key pieces in a deal for him, and they don’t want to do anything right now that would disrupt the terrific chemistry they’ve built on the floor and in the locker room. I believe the Cavs will continue to be active in trade talks, but I’d be surprised if they wind up with Simmons.
Koby Altman deserves a ton of credit for not missing on draft picks. What other parts of the Cavs organization have contributed to that success? Is the player-development team particularly strong? Are the team’s scouts really good? How do you parse the organizational growth? — David M.
I asked a similar question to someone in the organization a few days ago. It’s a commitment to playing younger players even when they’re getting their heads beaten in and it’s a commitment from player-development coaches to put in the extra hours on guys who might not even make the roster or contribute much if they do.
Playing younger guys even when they make mistakes is complicated. Some coaches push back on that and believe you need to pull younger players out and bench them when they make mistakes to teach them accountability and show the rest of the locker room that the rookies will be held to the same standard. But it’s also true that game experience is often the best teacher and fastest way to improve. Ultimately, the Cavs played all of their youngsters through the growing pains and mistakes, and they’re reaping the benefits.
The Cavs have Rubio’s expiring contract and their three picks in this upcoming draft (and maybe Sexton) to deal. I’ve read about Caris LeVert and Eric Gordon as options, but who would you like them to go after? Or should we ride this out and re-sign Rubio? Would others in the league see moving Rubio as dirty, sorta like Boston moving Isaiah Thomas? He’s meant a lot to our success. — Jeffrey H.
This is nothing like the Isaiah Thomas situation in Boston. Rubio was here for only a couple of months and is on an expiring contract and out for the rest of the season. His contract is the perfect vehicle to get a deal done for a team short on cap space. Caris LeVert and Eric Gordon are realistic options because they’re on teams going nowhere. Regardless of names, the most important thing to consider is the Cavs are up against the tax line and have no intention of becoming a tax-paying team. The only way to accomplish that and add a player of significance is to move Rubio’s money.
How important has Sexton been to setting the organizational culture? The Cavs are a team of workers, and I’ve always seen Sexton as a consummate worker. Have the players followed his lead or is the team just choosing hard workers? — David M.
Sexton is indeed a ferocious worker, but I wouldn’t credit him for setting the organization’s culture. The Cavs have done a good job of identifying players without egos who are willing to put in the work.
Kevin Love reacts after hitting a 3-pointer in the first half against the Bucks on Jan. 26. (Tony Dejak / Associated Press)
Kevin Love looked salty about being subbed out in crunch time for Wade on Monday. We all know the Cavs suffer defensively when Love is out there against first-teamers, but are the Cavs better served during Markkanen’s absence to have their best bench scorer on the floor in crunch time? And … we need our rookie phenom to hit his free throws in crunch time. We’ve had two games in two weeks that could have been put away and weren’t. — Matthew S.
I was at Monday’s game, but I didn’t notice what you’re referencing. The only thing I can tell you is Kevin Love and the Cavs have an agreement that when he’s hot and feeling it, he wants the opportunity to close out games. That wasn’t the case Monday, however. Mobley did miss two big free throws at the end against the Knicks, but he also secured a big rebound after that. He’s shooting around 68 percent from the line this season, which is about what he shot last year at USC. It’s one of the areas he needs to improve, for sure.
The Cavs seem to be a different team without Rubio running the second unit. Would they lose Bird rights if they traded his expiring contract? Even with the injury, do you have a sense of whether he’ll be re-signed? Would that factor into trade decisions? Related but unrelated, with a James Harden–Ben Simmons sign-and-trade seemingly possible in the offseason, does that affect what the Cavs do with Sexton at the deadline? Does he become more viable as a sign-and-trade after the season with other pieces staying on the board, or is there more value in moving him with Rubio’s expiring contract to swing big? Or will the Cavs re-sign him (that feels unlikely, but what do I know)? — Ryan L.
Because Rubio is on an expiring contract, he has no value to the Cavs since he’s out for the season. I’d expect them to trade him before the deadline. Rubio wasn’t thrilled with the idea of coming to Cleveland immediately after the trade, but the Cavs talked to him about his role and he quickly bought in. The results were evident. He was a terrific fit here. The knee injury is a game-changer, however. It’s his second ACL tear in that knee, and at 31, I think it’s fair to wonder what kind of player he’ll be when he returns. Before the injury, I wrote in a mailbag that Rubio could still start for teams around the league. Now, I’m not sure what his future holds.
Has Lamar Stevens done enough this year to convince the brass to keep him around for the foreseeable future? He’s on a team-friendly, nonguaranteed deal for the next couple of years. Do you think the Cavs keep him around for the entire contract? — Tom S.
I’ve mentioned a couple of times now how impressed I’ve been with Lamar Stevens’ development and the Cavs’ ability to maximize his talent. They control his rights for two more years. At this point, I see no reason for him not being around.
Which team has the best chance of winning a ring in the next five years? — Jonathan L.
The answer to this question changes monthly, right? I would have given a much different answer in September. Right now, however, it has to be the Cavs. With their young talent under contract for the foreseeable future, ownership’s willingness to spend into the tax and the stability at head coach and GM, the Cavs are in great shape.
Brad Daugherty brings some welcome basketball insight and commentary to the Bally Sports broadcast team. Is he being groomed to replace Austin Carr? — Michael C.
I’ve heard nothing to this point about Carr retiring. Daugherty is fairly busy. I’m not sure his schedule would allow him to be a full-time analyst, anyway. But he brings a fresh perspective to the telecasts he joins. I like it.
Does Rajon Rondo sufficiently cover for Rubio in the Cavaliers’ scheme of things or might an upgrade be acquired? — Jim R.
Rondo was an emergency add because the Cavs needed someone else who could dribble and bring the ball up the floor. Darius Garland was out at the time, and Rubio went down with the knee injury. It was a great Band-Aid, and Rondo has a little more left in the tank than I thought. But the Cavs could probably do a little better at the deadline to upgrade that spot.
Question about the ’80s-’90s Cavs: Is there any reason Ron Harper is overlooked when talking about the Cavs from that era? It seems like he’s rarely talked about as a Cavs player from that time. — Gil R.
He probably isn’t mentioned much because of the trade. I’ve often wondered how those Cavs teams would’ve fared differently had Ron Harper remained in town.
Do you think the Cavs are actively shopping their first-round pick this year? Or are they more likely to hold on to it to see if they can get someone in the high 20s (wink, wink) who can add to the young core? — Matt S.
That pick is far more valuable to them in trade than it is in drafting someone to add. Because you’re right: The way this is going, it’s not going to be a lottery pick. I’d expect them to move it at the deadline.