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Williams gets my vote.

What was Williams' average away from Fenway ? I am assuming that it was pretty good at Fenway.

rusty2 wrote:What was Williams' average away from Fenway ? I am assuming that it was pretty good at Fenway.

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VT'er wrote:I dunno, even with that comparison it's pretty amazing. All things taken into account, a good argument can be made that Williams was the best overall hitter ever in the majors.

Factor in his World War II service, of course.


Ted Williams retired before I was old enough to pay attention to baseball, or learned that Cleveland Indians.....especially under the reign of Mark Shapiro.....are perennial losers.

Omar Vizquel is the best all around player to ever don a Cleveland Indians uniform.


When he gets in, we're all going to Cooperstown.

Anyone remember the only guy to pinch hit for Williams? He became an Indian at one point.

Carrol Hardy. [He started as an Indian in 1958, my first season as a fan]

Traded by the Cleveland Indians with Russ Nixon to the Boston Red Sox for Ted Bowsfield and Marty Keough.

So on those posted stats, Babe wins, Ted second and Lou just behind. No performance-enhancing drugs, but also no relief specialists to face.

Babe at home OPS 1181, on the road 1147. And a great pitcher.
Williams home OPS 1149, on the road 1083. And took off his prime years to fight the wars.
Gehrig home OPS 1056, on the road 1102.

Lets face it with no african american hispanic players those records are basically bogus. Dont really think there was ever a clean era for baseball. They should just abolish the Hall of Fame.

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Geez guys I was just trying to say something nice about Stan the Man.

kenm wrote:Lets face it with no african american hispanic players those records are basically bogus. Dont really think there was ever a clean era for baseball. They should just abolish the Hall of Fame.

There were few African Americans and Hispanics in med schools until recent decades.

Should the accomplishments of doctors and medical researchers from years prior be tossed aside?

Should we debate the battle worthiness of Triassic dinosaurs versus later Cretaceous dinosaurs?

Nope. Different eras, and different variables.

The game objective is to excel in your era, with a hope that your body of work might be remembered and noted in a future era.

Stan Musial will forever trump Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa.


Pete Rose?

The jury is out.

Stan, Ted and Hank were very special multi-talented players.

Throw a Willie in there.

How could I have forgotten!?

Gosh how long has it been since I've seen Katie Whitham?