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Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2013 6:32 pm
by J.R.
No, he told me he was on the road. I did get to a game with CALIFLA in Ft. Myers, and with DENVER LOU in Lakeland.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri Apr 12, 2013 1:30 pm
by J.R.
Jonathan Winters, Funny Man and Comedic Inspiration, Dies at 87

By WILLIAM GRIMES
Published: April 12, 2013

Jonathan Winters, the rubber-faced comedian whose unscripted flights of fancy inspired a generation of improvisational comics, and who kept television audiences in stitches with Main Street characters like Maude Frickert, a sweet-seeming grandmother with a barbed tongue and a roving eye, died on Thursday at his home in Montecito, Calif. He was 87.


His death was announced on his Web site, JonathanWinters.com.

Mr. Winters, a rotund man whose face had a melancholy basset-hound expression in repose, burst onto the comedy scene in the late 1950s and instantly made his mark as one of the funniest, least definable comics in a rising generation that included Mort Sahl, Shelley Berman and Bob Newhart.

Mr. Winters was at his best when winging it, confounding television hosts and luckless straight men with his rapid-fire delivery of bizarre observations uttered by characters like Elwood P. Suggins, a Midwestern Everyman, or one-off creations like the woodland sprite who bounded onto Jack Paar’s late-night show and simperingly proclaimed: “I’m the voice of spring. I bring you little goodies from the forest.”

A one-man sketch factory, Mr. Winters could re-enact Hollywood movies, complete with sound effects, or create sublime comic nonsense with simple props like a pen-and-pencil set.

The unpredictable, often surreal quality of his humor had a powerful influence on later comedians like Robin Williams but made him hard to package as an entertainer. His brilliant turns as a guest on programs like “The Steve Allen Show” and “The Tonight Show” — in both the Jack Paar and Johnny Carson eras — kept him in constant demand. But a successful television series eluded him, as did a Hollywood career, despite memorable performances in films like “It’s a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World,” “The Loved One” and “The Russians Are Coming, the Russians Are Coming.”

Jonathan Harshman Winters was born on Nov. 11, 1925, in Dayton, Ohio, where his alcoholic father (“a hip Willy Loman,” according to Mr. Winters) worked as an investment broker and his grandfather, a frustrated comedian, owned the Winters National Bank.

“Mother and dad didn’t understand me; I didn’t understand them,” he told Jim Lehrer on “The NewsHour With Jim Lehrer” in 1999. “So consequently it was a strange kind of arrangement.” Alone in his room, he would create characters and interview himself.

The family’s fortunes collapsed with the Depression. The Winters National Bank failed, and Jonathan’s parents divorced. His mother took him to Springfield, where she did factory work but eventually became the host of a women’s program on a local radio station. Her son continued talking to himself and developed a repertory of strange sound effects. He often entertained his high school friends by imitating a race at the Indianapolis Motor Speedway.

A poor student, Mr. Winters enlisted in the Marines before finishing high school and during World War II served as a gunner on the aircraft carrier Bon Homme Richard in the Pacific.

After the war he completed high school and, hoping to become a political cartoonist, studied art at Kenyon College and the Dayton Art Institute. In 1948 he married Elaine Schauder, a Dayton native who was studying art at Ohio State. She died in 2009.

At the urging of his wife, Mr. Winters, whose art career seemed to be going nowhere, entered a talent contest in Dayton with his eye on the grand prize, a wristwatch, which he needed. He won, and he was hired as a morning disc jockey at WING, where he made up for his inability to attract guests by inventing them. “I’d make up people like Dr. Hardbody of the Atomic Energy Commission, or an Englishman whose blimp had crash-landed in Dayton,” he told U.S. News and World Report in 1988.

After two years at a Columbus television station, he left for New York in 1953 to break into network radio. Instead he landed bit parts on television and, with surprising ease, found work as a nightclub comic.

A guest spot on Arthur Godfrey’s “Talent Scouts” led to frequent appearances with Jack Paar and Steve Allen, both of them staunch supporters willing to give Mr. Winters free rein. Alistair Cooke, after seeing Mr. Winters at the New York nightclub Le Ruban Bleu, booked him as the first comedian ever to appear on his arts program “Omnibus.”

In his stand-up act, Mr. Winters initially relied heavily on sound effects — a cracking whip, a creaking door, a hovering U.F.O. — which he used to spice up his re-enactments of horror films, war films and westerns. Gradually he developed a gallery of characters, which expanded when he had his own television shows, beginning with the 15-minute “Jonathan Winters Show,” which ran from 1956 to 1957. He was later seen in a series of specials for NBC in the early 1960s; on an hourlong CBS variety series, “The Jonathan Winters Show,” from 1967 to 1969; and on “The Wacky World of Jonathan Winters,” in syndication, from 1972 to 1974.


Many of Mr. Winters’s characters — among them B. B. Bindlestiff, a small-town tycoon, and Piggy Bladder, football coach for the State Teachers’ Animal Husbandry Institute for the Blind — were based on people he grew up with. Maude Frickert, for example, whom he played wearing a white wig and a Victorian granny dress, was inspired by an elderly aunt who let him drink wine and taught him to play poker when he was 9 years old.

Other characters, like the couturier Lance Loveguard and Princess Leilani-nani, the world’s oldest hula dancer, sprang from a bizarre secret compartment of Mr. Winters’s inventive brain.

As channeled by Mr. Winters, Maude Frickert was a wild card. Reminiscing about her late husband, Pop Frickert, she told a stupefied interviewer: “He was a Spanish dancer in a massage parlor. If somebody came in with a crick in their neck he’d do an orthopedic flamenco all over them. He was tall, dark and out of it.”

One of Mr. Winters’s most popular characters, she appeared in a series of commercials for Hefty garbage bags, which also featured Mr. Winters as a garbage man dressed in a spotless white uniform and referring, in an upper-class British accent, to gar-BAZH. Johnny Carson kidnapped Made Frickert and simply changed the name to Aunt Blabby, one of his stock characters. Mr. Winters said that the blatant theft did not bother him.

Although Mr. Winters often called himself a satirist, the term does not really apply. In “Seriously Funny,” his history of 1950s and 1960s comedians, Gerald Nachman described him, a little floridly, as “part circus clown and part social observer, Red Skelton possessed by the spirit of Daumier.”

He was hard to define. “I don’t do jokes,” he once said. “The characters are my jokes.” At the same time, unlike many comedians reacting to the Eisenhower era, he found his source material in human behavior rather than politics or current events, but in him the spectacle of human folly provoked glee rather than righteous anger.

In 1961 Variety wrote, “His humor is more universally acceptable than any of the current New Comics, with the possible exception of Bob Newhart, because he covers the mass experiences of the U.S. common man — the Army, the gas station, the airport, etc.”

Mr. Winters did much of his best work in nightclubs, but he hated life on the road. In 1959 he suffered a nervous breakdown onstage at the Hungry I in San Francisco and briefly spent time in a mental hospital. Two years later he suffered another collapse, and soon after that he quit nightclubs for good. Between 1960 and 1964 he recorded his most-requested monologues for Verve on a series of albums, notably “The Wonderful World of Jonathan Winters,” “Here’s Jonathan” and “Jonathan Winters: Down to Earth.”

The conventional television variety show did not suit Mr. Winters, but film did not seem the right medium for him either. Scripts stifled him. “Jonny works best out of instant panic,” one of his television writers in the 1960s said. He thrived when he could ad-lib, fielding unexpected questions or pursuing spontaneous flights of fancy. In other words, he made a brilliant guest, firing comedy in short bursts, but a problematic host or actor.

In the ’70s and ’80s Mr. Winters was a frequent guest on “The Andy Williams Show,” “The Tonight Show” and “Hollywood Squares.” He played Robin Williams’s extraterrestrial baby son, Mearth, on the final season of “Mork & Mindy,” and he kept busy with voice-over work in animated television series and films. He also published a book of his cartoons, “Mouse Breath, Conformity, and Other Social Ills,” and a collection of whimsical stories, “Winters’ Tales.”

More influential than successful, Mr. Winters circled the comic heavens tracing his own strange orbit, an object of wonder and admiration to his peers. “Jonathan taught me,” Mr. Williams told the correspondent Ed Bradley on “60 Minutes,” “that the world is open for play, that everything and everybody is mockable, in a wonderful way.”

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Apr 13, 2013 11:29 pm
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Jonathon Winters was a role model for my spontaneous public jokes over the years.

My youngest kid, now about aged 21, did improv in his high school years. I coached him with the influence of my Jonathon Winters knowledge, as I pulled miscellaneous items out of a pillow case for my kid to work into his spontaneous rehearsal routine.


As Jonathon Winters did.

Jonathon Winters had more talent in his little finger than most commonly accepted "entertainment stars" do today.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:51 pm
by J.R.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:42 am
by husker
In 2014 aand 2015, four straight full lunar eclipses will fall on Jewish Holy days resulting in blood red moons as follows:

April 14, 2014 - Passover
October 8, 2014 - Feast of Tabernacles
April 4, 2015 - Passover
September 28, 2015 - Feast of Tabernacles

This will be the 8th time four full lunar eclipses have occurred on Jewish Holy Days since the time of Christ. The previous two in our life times as follows:

The United Nations recognized Israel as a nation in 1948. The Arabs attacked Israel in 1949 and were defeated. The blood red eclipses fell on Passover in 1949 and 1950 and on the Feast of Tabernacles in 1949 and 1950.

In 1967 the Arabs again attacked Israel and again were defeated. I believe they called this the 6 Day War. The blood red eclipses fell on Passover and Feast of Tabernacles in 1967 and 1968. Israel took control of Jerusalem as a result.

Something major will happen within the next couple of years involving Israel. I suggest war again with the Arabs. The result will be, in my opinion, something similar to the previous 2 tetrads of full lunar eclipses. I would guess Israel will gain the right to erect a temple not far from the Mosque of Omar. See Psalm 83 for what looks like a war. For sure Ezekiel 38 and 39 describes a major war. If it is the latter, Russia will be involved and Iran which changed it's name from Persia in 1935. See Isaiah 17:1 for the eventual fate of Damascus. Also Ezekiel 29 & 30 for Egypt's fate. I don't know which war will occur, but I do believe one will occur. There could be a 7 year peace treaty signed by September or October of 2015. This could be the time of Jacob's trouble. To expound on all of this would take a lot of time. Suffice it to say that something major is going to happen within the time frame of these four eclipses. Also, a partial solar eclips will occur on September 13th of 2015. That would be on the Jewish new year, or Rosh Hashanah.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Wed Apr 24, 2013 10:46 am
by husker
Documentation on the eclipses can be found at http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse.html

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 10:58 pm
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
Another Saturday Night, and Shapiro is a Loser.


Firmly in last, with a likely lock on last place as May arrives next week.

Rusty loves Mark Shapiro.


Rusty = dumb

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sat Apr 27, 2013 11:02 pm
by rusty2
Chipmunk cheeks must be drinking again.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 7:23 pm
by eocmcdoc
Okay. I am a proud papa. http://5newsonline.com/2013/04/25/mclau ... a-central/
this is a link to channel 5 news in Fort Smith, Ar. My son is a junior at Fort Smith Southside High School.
He just took 1st place in the conference pole vault event this past week. Next comes the State Track Meet Championship this Thursday. Thursday is also his birthday. I am flying down Tuesday for a week & get to see it all. :)

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2013 9:56 pm
by J.R.
Congrats to you and your sons,, LARRY! That's great that his brother is the coach, too!
Have a great time, and good luck to your son!

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:05 am
by loufla
Ditto!

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Thu May 02, 2013 11:39 pm
by Tribe Fan in SC/Cali
I'm truly an excellent gambler (and driver), but I usually pi** three or four hundred away on Kentucky Derby "lottery type" bets each year chasing a nice price on exotic wagers.

My last big Kentucky Derby score was on "Genuine Risk," and THAT was eons ago. There was a little girl who won a wet t-shirt contest in Key Largo the night before who I found on a rural road west of Miami and gave a ride to her chosen spots of destination and visits in my Fiat convertible before I brought her home that factored in that particular wager.

I'm off to Orlando for my youngest kid's 21st birthday celebration in the AM.

I have a traveling bar for proper celebration.


For the record, I'm putting "Itsmyluckyday" and "Overanalyze" in my top three.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 11:26 am
by eocmcdoc
Update. My son Philip finished 4th in the 7A division pole vault yesterday. 13-6. The young man that won went 15-7. This guy is a stud. 1st team all-Ark in football & basketball & now track. In track he runs the 100, 200, and 4x100. 4 events at state. Oh, the weather conditions at Bentonville Thur, was 43 degrees with a 20 mile an hour wind. The only state 7A record set, was the pole vault. Kudos to that young man. Still, all in all, it was still a great birthday for Philip. Next year, his sights are on the championship & new state record/school record.

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 3:52 pm
by J.R.
4th place got him on the platform, though. Congrats to you both!

Re: Idle Chatter

Posted: Fri May 03, 2013 4:23 pm
by joez
NIIIIICE !!