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Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2024 2:00 pm
by TFIR
Stop-gap TV deal

The Guardians, Twins and Rangers will, in fact, have a TV deal for 2024 — they will remain with Bally Sports for the upcoming season. It’s good to have (a little bit of) a resolution, finally. But, as Evan Drellich reports, it’s just a one-year deal for each team. Let’s dig into the implications.

First, this doesn’t solve the “blackout” issue. Digital rights and broadcast rights are two different things, and this deal doesn’t do the thing that fans have been asking for: the ability to watch the home team without signing up for a whole cable package. But all is not lost — commissioner Rob Manfred has targeted 2025 for the launch of a new streaming service that could include roughly half of the league, ostensibly without blackout restrictions.

For the three teams that finally have a deal, it doesn’t really solve everything. For example, the Rangers’ original contract originally ran through 2030, giving them long-term financial stability. But due to the bankruptcy proceedings, the options were down to “be dropped completely and find a new partner by Opening Day” or “take a reduced, one-year deal.” Given the amount of money involved, it made more sense to take this deal and look to the future. But that doesn’t help much with payroll — they need another starting pitcher and the most logical fit (Jordan Montgomery) isn’t likely to take a one-year deal. Short-term stability beats no stability at all, but it’s certainly still a problem.

This situation is also affecting expansion plans. Drellich was at the owners’ meetings in Florida last week and spoke to the commissioner, who said that in addition to getting the A’s and Rays’ stadium deals more firmed up, the league needs this broadcast situation to be resolved before it can go through the upheaval of adding two more teams.

It’s a solution, for now. But it feels an awful lot like the old days, before binge-streaming, when seeing “To Be Continued…” at the end of a stressful episode of television meant we had no choice but to wait.

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 10:49 am
by TFIR
Cleveland Guardians 2024 top 20 prospects: Brayan Rocchio leads the way
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Aug 12, 2023; St. Petersburg, Florida, USA; Cleveland Guardians shortstop Brayan Rocchio (6) on deck to bat against the Tampa Bay Rays during the first inning at Tropicana Field. Mandatory Credit: Kim Klement Neitzel-USA TODAY Sports
By Keith Law
5h ago



The Guardians’ system took a big hit since last winter, graduating three top-100 prospects in Tanner Bibee, Gavin Williams, and Bo Naylor; and seeing two more top-100 guys lose all or most of 2023 to injury in George Valera and Daniel Espino. Their second-round pick from 2022 also missed the entire year, and … I mean, you get the picture. It was a tough year on the farm here, but they still have a pretty strong top five, and their 2023 draft class has some high-upside picks to watch.
go-deeper

GO DEEPER

Top 100 MLB prospects 2024: Keith Law’s rankings, with Jackson Holliday at No. 1
Guardians 2024 top 20 prospects

(Note: Seasonal ages as of July 1, 2024. Scouting grades are on the traditional 20-80 or 2-8 scouting scale.)
1. Brayan Rocchio, SS (2024 top 100 ranking: 13)

Bats: B | Throws: R | Height: 5-10 | Weight: 170 | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

This is Rocchio’s fourth year on my top 100, and I presume his final one, as he debuted in the majors last year and the Guardians appear to have cleared the path for him to be their opening-day shortstop. Rocchio’s outstanding feel for the game was evident even when he signed at 16, while he’s developed into a plus defender at shortstop and improved his pitch recognition and swing decisions as he’s moved up the chain.

He’s a true switch-hitter who hits from both sides of the plate, and he’s become extremely difficult to strike out, ranking in the top 4 percent of all full-season players (minimum 400 PA) last year in contact rate. He’s shown power in the past, with 33 homers in 2021-22 combined, and hits the ball hard for a smaller hitter, with top-end exit velocities higher than Alex Bregman’s were at ages 22-23, although I’d project a more conservative 15-18 homers a year for Rocchio. It’s plus defense, potentially elite plate discipline, quality contact already, and a track record of consistent improvements. Cleveland’s trade of Francisco Lindor should hurt a bit less now that his successor is here.
2. Kyle Manzardo, 1B (2024 top 100 ranking: 66)

Bats: L | Throws: L | Height: 6-0 | Weight: 205 | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

Manzardo was the Rays’ second-round pick in 2021 out of Washington State, where he showed outstanding feel to hit but didn’t put the ball over the fence as much as you’d expect for his size or want for his lack of defensive value. Traded to Cleveland this past July for Aaron Civale, Manzardo started turning on the ball a lot more after he came off the injured list (for a shoulder issue) in August, with six homers in 21 games for Triple-A Columbus and six more in 22 games in the Arizona Fall League.

He’s an extremely disciplined hitter who doesn’t chase much and almost never misses on fastballs, destroying right-handed pitching with some trouble with lefties — he makes enough contact but had a .195 BABIP against them last year, which feels fluky given how hard he typically hits the ball. His best position is in the batter’s box and you’ll have to live with some limited defense at first base, which caps his ceiling somewhat, but if he closes that platoon split (or if it turns out to be at least partly bad luck) he’s got a .380-.400 OBP, 30 homer ceiling that will play anywhere.
3. Chase Delauter, OF (2024 top 100 ranking: 81)

Bats: L | Throws: L | Height: 6-4 | Weight: 235 | Seasonal age in 2024: 22

Delauter missed 15 months with a broken foot he suffered in college in 2022, re-aggravating the injury while rehabbing. He didn’t make his pro debut until a year after the Guardians took him with the 16th pick in the 2022 draft. He’s only played in 57 pro games, plus 23 more in the AFL, but to his credit he’s hit at every level up through a six-game stint in Double A, even with an ugly swing that doesn’t look like it’ll produce power or even let him be consistently on time. He’s an excellent athlete who might be a plus runner at full health and definitely has a plus arm, with the potential for big defensive value in right field. He’s shown great feel for the strike zone everywhere he’s ever played, including his time at James Madison and a summer on Cape Cod, where he was one of just four regulars to walk more than he struck out.

It is a really unfortunate swing, though; he opens his hips early and all but drags the bat to the zone that makes it look like he’s trying to scoop the ball with the bat head and poke it to right field. He hasn’t seen much velocity yet in pro ball, so he may not be tested until this year when he’s playing in Double A or Triple A. There’s real upside here with his defense and the contact skills he’s demonstrated, but the bad swing and injury history point to the downside risk that he’s just an extra outfielder. He reminds me some of Brett Jackson, another first-rounder with an awkward swing but great athleticism who hit everywhere he played until the majors.
4. Jaison Chourio, OF (Just missed)

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 162 | Bats: B | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 19

Yes, that’s Jackson’s little brother, and while some of the hype from the No. 2 overall prospect in the game might be spilling over onto Jaison, he’s a solid prospect in his own right. He’s a real centerfielder with great reads there and projects to be a plus defender, with flashes of plus speed that should be more consistently there as he matures physically. He’s a switch-hitter, better from the more important side (left-handed) but with good swings from both sides of the plate.

The big difference between Jaison and Jackson, and the reason Jaison isn’t on the top 100 yet, is power: Jackson has it, and Jaison doesn’t, with just two homers in 406 professional plate appearances and no real projection for more than minimal power going forward. His exit velocities are improving as he builds strength, so there’s optimism across the board that he’ll be able to impact the ball against major-league quality pitching, but it’ll come in the form of base hits rather than homers. He’s also got a good eye, walking more than he struck out last year in the Arizona Complex League. It’s hard to see him as more than a solid regular unless he gets quite a bit stronger, or picks up some speed and projects as a 70 defender rather than a 60 as he currently does, although there’s a reasonable chance he’s a fourth outfielder even if he never gets beyond 30 power.
5. José Tena, SS

Height: 5-11 | Weight: 195 | Bats: L | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

I’m not sure why some teams or coaches are teaching guys this heel-up swing, but Tena tried it early in the year and it killed him; when he brought the heel partway back down and kept his front leg more upright while also getting his hands in lower and better position to hit, he took off, hitting .344/.415/.550 from July 1 until he was called up to the majors in September. He’s a no-doubt shortstop and has shown a good enough approach over the course of his career to believe he’ll get pitches to drive. I hope the plan for him this year is to leave him alone and let him have some extended success in Triple A.
6. Juan Brito, 2B

Height: 5-11 | Weight: 200 | Bats: B | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 22

The return for Nolan Jones quietly had a solid year at the plate across three levels, finishing with five games in Triple A and posting a .271/.377/.434 line on the season with above-average defense at second base. He’s got a very disciplined approach at the plate, taking his walks but looking for pitches to hit, and if he had another half-grade of power he would have been banging on the door of the top 100. As it is, he’s in the top ~130 or so, and has an above-average regular ceiling at second base.
Ralphy Velasquez has big power potential. (Mark J. Rebilas / USA Today)
7. Ralphy Velazquez, C

Height: 6-3 | Weight: 215 | Bats: L | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 19

Cleveland’s first-round pick from 2023 was Velasquez, a power-hitting catcher from a California high school who is more bat than glove right now but with the potential to stay back there. He’s more hit than power, though; there’s power in there if he stays back on the ball a little more to drive it consistently in games, with 25-homer upside if it all clicks, although I think his wide stance is holding down the power numbers. He’s not great behind the dish, with a plus-plus arm but needing a lot of help receiving, blocking, and so on, although to his credit he remade his body in the 2022-23 offseason to turn catching into a real possibility.
8. Alex Clemmey, LHP

Height: 6-6 | Weight: 205 | Bats: L | Throws: L | Seasonal age in 2024: 18

Clemmey hit 100 mph last spring for his Rhode Island high school, sitting 94-98 with feel for both a curve and change, but with a rough drop-and-drive delivery that inhibited his ability to throw strikes. He’s very athletic and shows top-of-the-line skills in things like range of motion, so Cleveland, which has a strong track record in pitching development, has a ton to work with here. Even just getting him a delivery he can repeat would make him a top 100 guy in a year.
9. Daniel Espino, RHP

Height: 6-2 | Weight: 225 | Bats: R | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

Espino hasn’t pitched since April 2022 due to first a knee issue and then, much more concerning, a shoulder issue that required surgery after that season and took him out for all of 2023. For a month in 2022, he was the best pitching prospect in baseball, but I have no idea if that guy is coming back — or when, really. Maybe he’ll be up to 100 mph again with command and out pitches, but the odds of that seem very low, and I’d bet if he comes back it’ll be in relief.
10. Kahlil Watson, SS/2B

Height: 5-10 | Weight: 180 | Bats: L | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 21

Watson was part of the return from Miami for Josh Bell at the trade deadline, and if anyone might benefit from a fresh start, it’s him, as he struggled on the field since the Marlins took him in the first round in 2021 and had frequent difficulties with staff — as well as a suspension in 2022 for pointing his bat at an umpire while holding it like a gun. He’s very toolsy, but was clearly more unfinished as a player when drafted than it seemed. It sounds like he’s going to focus on second base, rather than shortstop (which he wasn’t good at), and maybe mix in some centerfield to take advantage of his speed. He’s got more power than you’d expect from his size but has struggled with zone coverage, something else Cleveland intends to work on, keeping him on plane more through the zone so he can close some of those holes. Don’t be surprised if he takes at least a small step forward this year now that he’s in a new environment. I think it says something that Marlins people didn’t have anything bad to say about him even after the trade, too.
11. Angel Martínez, 3B/2B

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 200 | Bats: B | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 22

Martinez might be maxed out physically and skill-wise at this point, as he’s gotten a lot stronger to get to 45ish power, but his body has slowed and brought down his defensive value and his baserunning speed. He has some feel to hit, with an aggressive approach that leads to a lot of contact and an 8 percent walk rate last year between Double and Triple A, while he can handle third or second on a short-term basis and shortstop in an emergency.
12. Parker Messick, LHP

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 225 | Bats: L | Throws: L | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

Messick is a finesse lefty with a bad body and not quite enough command for the profile, with an average fastball and 55 changeup that has some depth and deception. He was too advanced for Low A as an ACC product (Florida State), then struggled in the second half in High A, giving up 10 homers in 65 innings and hitting 11 batters. He’s very tough on lefties due to the delivery and does like to go inside to righties, which is where the high HBP total comes from. There’s three average pitches in here with the slider for left-on-left, but you can’t be this guy without 55 command, and his delivery isn’t consistent enough for that just now.
13. George Valera, OF

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 195 | Bats: L | Throws: L | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

That was a huge fall for Valera, who went to Triple A and hit .211/.343/.375 in 73 games with a 27.2 percent strikeout rate around a slew of injuries, including one to his wrist and another to his hamstring. Some of the injuries may be because he was out of shape to start the year, but the injuries and the conditioning don’t explain why he was swinging and missing more often and at all pitch types. There’s still huge power here, and it’s possible that the wrist injury had some effect on his numbers, but scouts who saw him last year were unimpressed, and he has to make some significant changes this offseason to get back on track to even be a regular.
Alex Mooney signed over-slot last season out of Duke. (Erica Denhoff / Icon Sportswire via Associated Press)
14. Alex Mooney, SS

Height: 6-1 | Weight: 195 | Bats: R | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 21

Mooney was a draft-eligible sophomore at Duke whom Cleveland took in the seventh round last year, signing him for an over-slot $1 million bonus. He’s their kind of guy — a high-IQ player with great instincts who’s on the smaller side and doesn’t offer a ton of projection. I do think he can stay at short despite 45 speed, and he can probably boost his contact quality if Cleveland helps him get into his legs more, all of which might give him a ceiling as a fringe regular.
15. Andrew Walters, RHP

Height: 6-4 | Weight: 225 | Bats: R | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

Walters was a reliever at the University of Miami and dominated mostly with his fastball, working 94-98 mph from a low slot, getting deception from the delivery and some ride on the pitch. He’s got a slider but it’s fringy and just functions to keep hitters honest. It’s plus control, with just a 4.4 percent walk rate over the last two springs for the Hurricanes. He could move quickly as a one-inning guy, but that’s also his ceiling.
16. Welbyn Francisca, SS

Height: 5-8 | Weight: 150 | Bats: B | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 18

Oh, gee, Cleveland has another undersized, switch-hitting shortstop prospect. Water is wet, Lincoln’s been shot, etc. Francisca already has very good bat speed and a chance for more power than Brayan Rocchio, with a slightly more physical build than Rocchio had at the same age and definitely more room to add some muscle. He’s athletic and can run, with a chance to stay at short but would likely be above-average or plus if he ended up at second. He played well in the Dominican Summer League last year and should debut in the US this year.
17. Kody Huff, C

Height: 5-10 | Weight: 200 | Bats: R | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 23

Acquired this winter for Cal Quantrill, Huff is an outstanding defensive catcher, with multiple clubs telling me their analysts ranked his defense among the best in the minors, and as a hitter he at least makes contact and has an idea of the strike zone. He was too old for Low A last year, though, so I wouldn’t read a ton into the stat line. He could easily have a long career as a glove-first backup.
18. Joey Cantillo, LHP

Height: 6-4 | Weight: 225 | Bats: L | Throws: L | Seasonal age in 2024: 24

Cantillo was part of the trade that sent Mike Clevinger to San Diego, then got hurt, reaching Triple A last year and struggling kind of across the board. He’s 91-95 mph with a plus changeup and a high-spin curveball that usually finishes out of the zone, long relying on the deception in his delivery to help everything play up. He walked 13 percent of batters he faced last year, and he gave up 16 homers in 95 innings in Triple A, 12 of them on his fastball. It’s always looked reliever-ish to me, and it might be time to try it; if he can land the curve for strikes more he could be a good bulk guy.
19. CJ Kayfus, 1B

Height: 6-0 | Weight: 195 | Bats: L | Throws: L | Seasonal age in 2024: 22

Kayfus was an extremely patient hitter at Miami, then went to Low-A Lynchburg after the draft and walked 15 times in 77 PA (19.5 percent) for good measure. He’s got power to go with it, and does work the count with intent to do damage, but it’s just average bat speed and I think he’ll struggle when he starts facing good velocity more regularly.
20. Franco Aleman, RHP

Height: 6-6 | Weight: 235 | Bats: R | Throws: R | Seasonal age in 2024: 24

Aleman is up to 98 mph with a wipeout slider and after a midyear promotion to Double A last season, he gave up zero earned runs in 24 innings — OK, there were five unearned runs, which count too, but the 38:5 strikeout-to-walk ratio is impressive. It’s straight relief but it’s two pitches with strikes, not bad for a 10th-round pick.

• Justin Campbell was the team’s second-round pick in 2022 but has yet to make his pro debut after undergoing ulnar nerve decompression surgery last May. He’s 6-7 with an average fastball and plus changeup, but there was already a concern about him losing velocity going from pitching once a week to every fifth day. He did throw a ton of strikes in college, a demographic where Cleveland’s had success.

• Cade Smith is a 6-5 right-hander from British Columbia, signed out of the University of Hawaii as an undrafted free agent in 2020, and reached Triple A last year as a straight reliever. He’s 93-96 mph with a full arsenal, although his fastball misses more bats than his secondaries do. He walked just over 10 percent of guys last year, and if that comes down at all he’s a big-league reliever right now.

• Outfielder Jose Pirela was in the DSL last year and showed some big power potential, slugging .480 with six homers while mostly playing center. It’s easy left-handed power and he’s going to be a big man, although I could see him ending up in right.

• Jose Devers — not the former Yankees/Marlins prospect — is another fun-sized infielder, well under his listed 6-foot height but maybe around his listed 140 pounds. He’s got a cannon of an arm and puts the ball in play a lot without power. He’s not going to stick at shortstop and is awfully small for third; maybe he could go behind the plate?
2024 impact

Rocchio should be the Guardians’ everyday shortstop this year, and Manzardo should be the first baseman. Aleman and Cantillo probably get time in their bullpen.
The fallen

I thought left-hander Doug Nikhazy was a reach in the second round (58th overall) in 2021, but even I didn’t foresee him losing the strike zone like he has — he cut his walk rate to 15 percent last year from nearly 17 percent the year before.
Sleeper

Not to be boring, but if Velazquez looks at all like he can catch now that he’s in pro ball (and catching pro stuff), his bat makes him an easy top 100 guy.

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:18 pm
by civ ollilavad
Thanks; as usual Law's top 20 is somewhat different from MLB.com and BA.com.

SInce 1-8 end with Clemmy, I see what he's referring to He's higher on TENA than other evaluators. He's not as high on Francisca.
He's got Valera way down there, which seems reasonable to me based on his deteriorating performances.
Likewise Cantillo
A little surprised he has Angek Martinez out of his top 10.
He does not appear to have much interest this year in Leftwich after ranking about No. 6-8 last season.
Overall he seems to like our trade returns better than many others:
Manzardo [for Civale at no. 2]
Brito [for Jones at no. 6 he agrees with most]
Watson [for Bell] at 10
Kody Huff [for Quantrill, No 17: as a good defender, not much of a hitter, he could be the heir apparent to Hedges as Bo's backup]; with Velazquez having a far higher ceiling either replacing Bo or replacing Josh or as DH

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:29 pm
by civ ollilavad
Of the other teenage PROSPECTS TO WATCH, BA includes several others not among the Law 20; of couse they go deeper to 30; BA KIDDIE LIST is

8 Chourio OF
9 Velazquez C/iB/DH
12 Francisca IF
15 Genao IF
16 Humphries the only pitcher among these
17 Rafael Ramirez IF
19 Dayan Frias IF
20 Devers IF
21 Arias OF
30 G. Rodriguez Jr. IF
BA does not include Pirela OF who is among Law's Others

Those are the group to hope will bring the system back into the Top 10

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 4:57 pm
by seagull
Where's our 1st round pick, Carson Tucker, these days?

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 6:56 pm
by civ ollilavad
Taling about a bust! By now he's 22 years old, not too old if he had made any progress, but with repeated injuries his entire minor league career consists of 232 at bats and 38 hits. That's a 164 average. He's slugged 3 home runs and struck out 101 times or about 40 percent of his at bats.

Re: Articles

Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2024 7:50 pm
by seagull
Let's hope the same people that drafted Tucker aren't picking the first pick in the draft this year.

Re: Articles

Posted: Wed Feb 14, 2024 12:22 pm
by TFIR
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The wild highs and lows that prepared Stephen Vogt to manage the Guardians
Zack Meisel
Feb 14, 2024



OLYMPIA, Washington — As the world slept, Stephen Vogt spent the winter after the 2012 season scrolling through his Twitter timeline night after night, searching for breaking news that the Rays had severed ties with him.

Every night it would be the same: Nothing there. The backup catcher still clutched his roster spot.

But it felt like a matter of time, and with that dread came the fear that the 25 hitless at-bats he had taken in the majors would ultimately be the sum total of his major league career.

The Rays plucked him out of Azusa Pacific University because he could hit. He staved off an early exit from pro ball and clawed his way to the majors because he could hit. Now he feared his 0-for-25 line proclaimed otherwise, and the anxiety about being cut, having that be the end, forced him awake every night.

His first big-league at-bat, a pinch-hit opportunity on Opening Day in 2012 against the Yankees with the game on the line, had resulted in what he describes as the “best strikeout” of his life, with the stakes, the adrenaline rush and the sense of accomplishment he had long craved.

But that 0-for-1 grew into 0-for-13, then swelled to 0-for-25 as winter approached. That zero haunted him more than any harmless oval should.

If he never played another game, was he a failure? Could he visit his Baseball-Reference page or peek at the back of his baseball card without humiliation swallowing him whole? Was trying and falling short, time and time again, truly better than never getting the chance to try?

The Rays ultimately did cut him, at the end of spring training in 2013. But that low moment paved the way for a playing career defined by demotions and doubts, by All-Star nods and adoration. It fueled him to keep pushing until he reached this point, manager of the Cleveland Guardians only 16 months after retiring from a 10-year catching career.

He was programmed to coach, after all. What he couldn’t comprehend when the big leagues seemed unreachable was that he needed those failures, those sleepless nights and those painfully candid self-evaluations to foster an eventual managerial career.
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Vogt at his introductory press conference as Guardians manager this winter. (Ken Blaze / USA TODAY)

Vogt now begins a journey where every decision will be scrutinized, every word dissected and every player’s insecurities his chief concern. But he is armed with the certainty that he can stand before his players and know the thoughts suffocating their minds, the fluttering in their stomachs, the tingling in their bones.

He’s been there. He’s celebrated the call-ups and mourned the send-downs. He’s weathered the slumps, the surgeries, the mental strife. He’s grieved. He’s lost faith. He’s flourished.

“I look back at all the things that went wrong,” Vogt says, “and I wouldn’t change one of them.”

The Vogts live off the shores of Puget Sound in the lush, evergreen woodlands of the Pacific Northwest, on a three-acre property that sits 2,444 miles from Stephen’s desk at Progressive Field in downtown Cleveland.

He cherishes the privacy and the simplicity Olympia offers. He chats with the meat market worker at the local Haggen grocery store. He coaches first base for his daughter’s softball team. The servers at El Sarape know he and his wife, Alyssa, will split the steak and shrimp fajitas, so they no longer bother asking before they bring the sizzling plate to their table.

A rainbow-colored “Welcome Home” banner hangs in the upstairs hallway to greet Vogt when he enters the front door. It originally signified his arrival after another grueling season, but winters are more involved for a manager, with frequent trips to Cleveland and to the team’s complex in Arizona. So, his kids opted to keep the sign in place all offseason.

Vogt rises at 4:15 a.m. during the winter so his schedule can mirror the one his colleagues follow on Eastern Standard Time. He opens the white French doors to his home office, a space littered with boxes and files that need shelter until the family’s slow-developing rec room renovations are complete.

The bookcase, though, is orderly, a meticulous arrangement of novels, memorabilia and a replica of the 2021 World Series trophy Vogt’s Braves captured. It creates a captivating Zoom background for those work calls, with no evidence of the clutter just out of frame.

Vogt has always been one to pay attention to the details, to know how effective the right message at the right moment can be.

In 2009, when Vogt was 25 and toiling away in A ball, the Rays had vacant slots for their annual spring talent show and Vogt’s teammates urged him to enter. He did a spot-on Matt Foley, the disheveled, breathless, tactless motivational speaker Chris Farley played on Saturday Night Live in the ‘90s. He had an NBA ref bit, with a zebra-striped shirt, a headband and a whistle that shrieked at anyone he brushed.
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Vogt in his NBA getup with Dave Feldman and Ahmed Fareed for an episode of “Carpool Confessions.” (Courtesy of Ahmed Fareed)

That would get its usual laughs, but there was another way for Vogt to make a more lasting impression — though it was not without risk. Deep in his arsenal, he had impersonations of his minor-league manager, Matt Quatraro, and the Rays’ farm director, Mitch Lukevics. He could even mimic some of the higher-ups in the front office, plus Rays manager Joe Maddon. Before he roasted the most powerful figures in the room, he needed immunity, assurance that this performance, typically limited to an intimate group of teammates, wouldn’t jeopardize his career.

It proved to be a winning act, with approval from the organization’s top authorities. Quatraro was in tears and, now a fellow AL Central manager, he still laughs about it when they connect.

“I won a couple thousand dollars,” Vogt says, “which was like gold.”

It also landed him on the Rays’ radar. He was minor-league roster filler, an extra body at a position where players crouch in harm’s way. But the way he gripped the entire clubhouse showcased leadership and communication. At minimum, the team’s evaluators would remember his name, his face and, above all, his voices.

A few days later, the Rays invited him to play in a Grapefruit League game, where he recorded a sacrifice fly in his lone plate appearance. The impersonations had supplied him with his first break.

At a manager’s breakfast at the Winter Meetings in Nashville in December, a few weeks after the Guardians hired him, a team staffer asked Vogt when he planned to unveil his acclaimed parodies for his new contingent. Vogt offered a polite half-chuckle and shied away from delivering a direct answer.

He may summon those characters when necessary, when the Guardians limp to their lockers after a walk-off loss or embark on a redeye flight after a three-city trip.

But he’s no longer trying to attract attention. He’s no longer imitating a manager.

He is one.

Randy Vogt set his alarm for 3 a.m. during baseball season. The earlier he started his workday, the sooner he could hustle home to coach Stephen and his older brother, Danny. He stuck with that routine for 15 years. The morning commute along Highway 99 was bearable, as he listened to news radio or Spanish language tapes.

But the last 20 miles of the mid-afternoon drive home, when he could almost hear the baseballs smacking the webbing of Stephen’s catcher’s mitt, were torture.

Vogt figured, like his dad, he would be a CPA. He never expected scouts to discover him at Azusa Pacific, but an Accounting II course had made him rethink his number-crunching future.

Maybe coaching was the most viable plan.

When he tore his shoulder and was relegated to a pseudo-instructor role as a 24-year-old in A ball, that seemed evident. When he pointed to his sterling stats and asked his High-A manager how he could move up from third-string catcher and the response was, “You can’t,” it seemed indisputable.

In 2008, Vogt carried a .609 OPS to the season’s midpoint with Class A Columbus. He daydreamed about ditching baseball and pursuing his Master’s degree. After a couple weeks of wallowing, Alyssa challenged him: “Do you realize you’re the only person who believes you can’t do this?”

The rest of the season, Vogt hit .370. She has a knack for, as Vogt describes it, punching him in the teeth with the truth.

After the Rays severed ties with him in 2013, Vogt caught on with the A’s. He notched his first hit on June 28, in his 33rd career at-bat, which he termed an “out-of-body experience.” He was confident Carlos Beltrán would snag the fly ball, another dose of his rotten big-league fortune. Instead, the baseball disappeared beyond the right-field wall and Vogt blacked out. He isn’t sure how he circled the bases, with his mind a whirl and his world a blur. He stepped on home plate, he’s certain of that.

The weight sagging onto his shoulders vanished. The clients who hired him for hitting lessons and hounded him about the 0-for-25 nightmare finally had new material. That tormenting zero was permanently replaced.

With the A’s, Vogt eventually blossomed into a two-time All-Star and a cult hero, a fixture on a roster full of big-league nomads. Once when Alyssa coached a basketball game in Washington, students chanted: I believe that we will win. Vogt’s daughter, Payton, alerted him that they had the words wrong. She was accustomed to the famous Oakland rallying cry with the same cadence: I believe in Stephen Vogt.

But as Vogt reached what should have been his peak years in Oakland, family tragedy struck. In July 2016, a couple weeks after his second All-Star Game appearance, Vogt took a three-day leave to be in Visalia, California, with his mom, Toni, who had been hospitalized for a week with organ failure. He rejoined the club in Cleveland, but late the next night, with Vogt three time zones away on the other end of a mostly silent phone call with his dad and brother, Toni passed.

“I don’t even know how he was able to get through the rest of the season,” Randy says.
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Vogt blossomed into something of a folk hero with the A’s. (AP Photo / Godofredo A. Vásquez, File)

Everything was meant to click in 2017. Vogt had cemented himself as Oakland’s starting catcher. He had reached the arbitration stage of his career, which earned him six times his previous salary. But he sputtered into the summer months, and the A’s parted ways with him.

“I was buying lies,” Vogt says. “‘I’m making more money — I have to play better. I’m letting people down. I’m not good enough to do this. I’m a failure. I went from a two-time All-Star to I’m gonna get DFAed out of the game.’ You start buying all of those lies. I was still dealing with my mom’s passing. You’re in the big leagues, making money, having a successful career, right in the middle of your prime. That was the lowest point.”

Vogt bounced to four other teams before returning to Oakland in 2022. He studied under Bruce Bochy, Brian Snitker, Torey Lovullo and Mark Kotsay, and when he needed another shoulder surgery in 2018, he shadowed Milwaukee manager Craig Counsell and bench coach Pat Murphy.

“All of that,” he says, “has prepared me to get to this point.”

As Vogt sipped a Manhattan at a downtown Chicago speakeasy in late July 2022, Alyssa asked about retirement. She had stuck by his side for a decade in the majors and inspired him when he was idling in the minors. She always told him it would take courage to admit when his career was stumbling toward the finish line.

“I think this is it,” she said.

“So do I,” he replied.

He was ready for the next stage, the one he had been plotting all along.

Vogt exited the on-deck circle on Oct. 5, 2022, for a rendezvous with Shohei Ohtani in his final major-league game.

Two familiar voices emanated from the ballpark speakers. Vogt’s eyes welled up as he approached the batter’s box.

Now batting, our dad, No. 21, Stephen Vogt!

Payton and Clark, his two oldest children, shouted into a microphone as Bennett, the youngest, mouthed the words beside them.

“All the emotions as you’re going up for what could be your final at-bat and for sure your last game,” Vogt recalls from his dining room, before Payton interjects.

“Did you know we were going to do it?” the 12-year-old asks.

“I heard you guys were going to do it,” her father replies, “but then in the moment, I forgot, because I was locked into the game. So it was the best of both worlds. I never would have made it through (if it had been a surprise), facing Shohei Ohtani with tears in my eyes. I barely made it through as it was.

“It just meant everything.”

Vogt’s journey had resonated with teammates and coaches. He became your favorite player’s favorite player.

Randy first noticed the leadership qualities when his son was a sophomore catcher in high school. Stephen would lift his mask and raise his hand and tell his hot-headed coach — Randy — to quit berating the umpire. He had it handled.

A couple years ago, Stephen assured his dad he could manage, that he could connect with any player who walked into his office, thanks to a résumé lined with as many failures as feats. He’ll have to deliver heartbreaking and heart-rate-spiking messages to players. He sat in on such conferences last season as the Mariners’ bullpen coach. He’s never personally informed a player of a demotion or a trade or a loss of playing time, but he has been the player in each scenario.

“When you’re part of a team, you have to love each other,” he says. “When you love somebody, you’re willing to tell them the truth. Sometimes that’s not fun to hear, but when you truly care about somebody, you’re willing to have those tough conversations to help them get better.”

That messaging convinced Cleveland’s brass he was the right choice to succeed future Hall of Famer Terry Francona.

Stephen and Alyssa were headed to the family’s horse stables, about 25 minutes from home, the morning of Nov. 3. They pulled over to the side of the road so Stephen could join an impromptu Zoom call with the Guardians’ front office. He accepted their offer to become their new manager. And then he proceeded to the stables to shovel piles of horse manure.

“When I look back, I laugh,” Vogt says. “It’s crazy. I never could have drawn it up.”

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:13 pm
by seagull
Pretty good article on DeLauter by Hoynes. Didn't realize Hoynes could write an article with some depth.

https://www.cleveland.com/guardians/202 ... ues.html

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:31 pm
by rusty2
Been saying it for some time. This kid is a future star and why the Guardians do not need a stop gap replacement. Once the current staff gets around him in spring training they will want him on the major league team as soon as possible. Probably before the end of the season.

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:25 pm
by seagull
About his broken foot.

Just wonder if this kid is "brittle" since he broke the same foot twice.

I know nothing about orthopedics but are people with late growth spurts, like DeLauter, more prone to bone problems?

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:43 pm
by civ ollilavad
Repeated injuries are always worrying.

George Valera has broken his hand twice and hasn't played a full season in a long time. Which of course tells us nothing about DeLauter

Just like my worry that as a tall OF with a somewhat unorthodox approach to hitting meant he would be another Brad Zimmer is similary irrelevant.

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 2:50 pm
by rusty2
Terry Pluto

The player to watch is Brito, who was Baseball America’s pick as Cleveland’s top minor league player in 2023. When I did my quick scouting trip to Lake County, I talked to an American League scout who had seen a lot of Brito.

“As I say this, I’m not talking about the José Ramírez we see now with all the power,” the scout said. “But Brito reminds me of a young José Ramírez. He doesn’t look like a classic player (5-foot-11, 202 pounds). That also was true of José. Like José, he’s a ‘ballplayer.’ His game is very mature. He has a chance to be special and can get to the Majors quick.”


Brito opened 2023 at Class A Lake County and was at Class AAA Columbus by the end of the season. He played the entire season at the age of 21, batting .277 (.811 OPS) with 14 HR and 75 RBI. He fanned 88 times, walked 78 times. He’s a switch hitter.

The Guardians traded Nolan Jones to Colorado for Brito because they love his game. Brito is mostly a second baseman. He’ll likely open the season at Class AAA. But if he does come to the Majors at some point, then Gold Glove second baseman Andrés Giménez will have to move to his old shortstop spot.


The Guardians have some prospects who have me excited as I head to spring training in the middle of March. Kyle Manzardo is a big name. But my favorite is Brito.

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Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:21 pm
by TFIR
Another spring of auditions awaits: How did the Guardians get here?
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CLEVELAND, OHIO - NOVEMBER 10: President of Baseball Operations Chris Antonetti introduces Stephen Vogt as the 45th Manager of the Cleveland Guardians at Progressive Field on November 10, 2023 in Cleveland, Ohio. (Photo by Jason Miller/Getty Images)
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Feb 16, 2024

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GOODYEAR, Ariz. — At the end of the table in the media workroom at the Guardians’ complex on Thursday, Stephen Vogt sat in full uniform, with a navy jersey top (with inconsistent kerning between the letters of his last name) and a red cap.

Team president Chris Antonetti sat to Vogt’s left, in his own uniform of sorts: a navy Guardians quarter-zip.

The prevailing theme of this spring is a familiar one, as the Guardians have a deep cast of young players attempting to prove they deserve extended playing time. To Vogt, that’s “a great problem to have,” a phrase he repeated during his first media session of the spring.

Antonetti echoed that, to a degree. Vogt was Seattle’s bullpen coach last year. He spent his winter taking a crash course on the Guardians’ processes and their roster dilemmas. He studied the skill sets and tendencies of every hitter and pitcher. But he needs visual evidence to pair with his notes, so until he sees players in action this spring, it’s difficult for the 39-year-old first-time manager in a new organization to offer context to potential decisions.

Antonetti, on the other hand, understands how the Guardians got here, how in 2024, 18 months after the club emerged as the surprise darling of the league, the mad-dashing bloop troop that surged to the postseason, the club is back to hosting a bunch of auditions and overcrowded competitions.

How did they boomerang back to this point, where the offseason scuttlebutt — and, really, it hardly registered as more than a whisper — centered on the lower concourse featuring blue seats, the return of the chatty, furry-chested backup catcher and the moon shielding the sun before the home opener? How did they spend the winter in silence rather than supplementing a talented pitching staff and a cornerstone third baseman? How did they get caught somewhere between rebuilding and returning to pennant contention while residing in a division in which a couple upgrades on the margins could have made a sizable difference?

The List tells part of the story.

Antonetti and GM Mike Chernoff have both joked they wake up in a cold sweat in the middle of the night thinking about The List. There’s probably some truth to it.

Cleveland’s front office keeps a document with all of its player evaluation blunders. It’s meant as a learning tool. What did they miss? Did the player simply blossom elsewhere because of a change of scenery, or did the Guardians err in aiding their development? Or, in a trade, why did they swing and miss at assessing someone they acquired?

In 2021, the Guardians hit the reset button. They allowed Jake Bauers and Bobby Bradley and Yu Chang and Bradley Zimmer to take their lumps. Their rotation was in disarray. After a period of contention, they needed to recalibrate. It was justifiable (though it would’ve been more widely approved had they acted with more urgency in addressing their deficiencies in the few years preceding that reset).
Two seasons ago, the Guardians were the mad-dashing bloop troop. Now, they’re looking for answers. (Brad Penner / USA Today)

The run in 2022, however, was supposed to serve as a springboard. Terry Francona said as much in the aftermath of their Game 5 loss at Yankee Stadium. It was an achievement, a season worth being proud of, but it should have been the beginning — a footnote, not the entire script.

Instead, after a 76-86 season, the Guardians are still searching.

They’re searching for a solution at shortstop despite hoarding prospects at that position like they’re canned goods ahead of the Y2K scare. They’re searching for answers in the outfield, an ongoing struggle since the end of the Clinton administration. They’re desperate for power, but instead of adding muscle from the outside world, they’re praying it emerges organically via Estevan Florial and Gabriel Arias and Kyle Manzardo, or perhaps Johnathan Rodriguez or George Valera or Deyvison De Los Santos.

Some solutions have walked out the door and onto The List.

They dealt an unknown prospect, Junior Caminero, for Tobias Myers, a pitcher who never made it to Cleveland. Caminero is now a consensus Top-5 prospect in the sport who debuted for the Rays last summer at the age of 20. Cleveland’s execs have light-heartedly asked Tampa’s front office for a do-over. They dealt Yainer Diaz, a power-hitting catcher who finished fifth in the AL Rookie of the Year balloting last season, to the Astros for Myles Straw. They bailed too soon on Nolan Jones and Will Benson, who thrived in Colorado and Cincinnati, respectively, while Will Brennan and Oscar Gonzalez floundered in Cleveland in their place.

These are well-documented mistakes. The point isn’t to rehash the front office’s recent (and, on balance, uncharacteristic) missteps. It’s to wonder what they’ve learned.

“It would be to be more patient,” Antonetti said Thursday, “and make sure we’re providing more runway with some of those guys.”

That means no repeat of previous free-agent follies after both Mike Zunino and Josh Bell flopped. Their reticence to participate in free agency was never actually about their TV deal hanging in bankruptcy purgatory. They knew they would receive a decent chunk of revenue one way or another. Now that it’s settled, Antonetti admitted Thursday the disinterest in external acquisitions has more to do with not wanting to block their young players and not wanting to delay getting an answer on their own prospects.

“The bigger question,” Antonetti said, “is the opportunity cost of allocating either innings or at-bats to other people when we have a really young roster that we think has a chance to develop into a good major-league team. If we sign someone and commit to giving that person 500-550 plate appearances, that’s 500-550 plate appearances we can’t give to other players. We feel like our major-league team and development system is at a point where some of those guys, we need to provide opportunities for. Now, in 2022, that worked well and those guys came together and helped fuel a contending team. Last year, we made choices to allocate some of those at-bats to veterans and, in retrospect, maybe we would have been better served giving some of those at-bats to younger guys.”

Regardless of the actual motivations, having patience will be particularly challenging. How do you get a long enough look at Arias and Brayan Rocchio and Tyler Freeman to know which one should be the choice for the long-term shortstop gig when all three play the same position and only Arias has had a period of regular at-bats? Or, what if Juan Brito is the best option of the bunch, which would require Andrés Giménez to shift to shortstop? (They’ve briefly discussed this with Giménez, but the plan, for now, is to anchor the Platinum Glove winner to second base.)

In the outfield, Florial, who’s out of options, is expected to earn opportunities. Steven Kwan and Ramón Laureano will play. After that, Vogt will have to figure out how to best deploy Straw, Brennan, Rodriguez, Valera or anyone else with an outfield glove, even if it’s De Los Santos, a 20-year-old Rule 5 pick.

So, while they boast a pitching staff built to win — provided it stays healthy — they’ll be running these position-player experiments. Maybe it’ll wind up being a great problem to have. Or, perhaps, they’ll keep paying for their poor evaluations.

“We have to always be learning,” Antonetti said.

They’re at the mercy of The List.

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Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2024 3:04 pm
by civ ollilavad
Since Florial is out of options, I assume he stays for at least couple months so they can see how he delivers given a real opportunity; the yankees never kept him around more than a few weeks.
Again for de los Santos, either they keep him; make a trade or return him. Like Florial he is potentially exactly what need offensively. Like Florial they cannot demote him like Brennan who has options available and therefore seems a likely Clipper for the start of the season; or Manzardo who ism't even on the 40 man roster yet.

If this season is again about auditions, those 2 should get serious major league time