Cleveland owners-Dolan dumb and cheap

Lerner really dumb and maybe not as rich as we give him credit for


Gilbert smart and rich but sometimes has to learn to shut up

Haslem a rich gas station operator

And the whining continues........

All four guys are rich. No doubt about it.

You think Dan Gilbert needs to shut his mouth ? Wow !

[quote="rusty2"]And the whining continues........

Rusty is the only guy who likes to have a bunch of teams that are laughing stocks. He is cheered that our brain trust bailed out their friend and gave him a job so now he can play Mike Homgren in Cleveland Walt Frazier in Cleveland and Keith Hernandez in Cleveland ie guys who came her to hang out do nothing and cach checks given to them by their idiot owners.

If it is true that the Dolans are making money because of being Tribe owners--and I dont see why we should not believe that--then why can't we give him some credit at least for the smarts that it takes not to screw that up? I'd like to think that with some additional or different smarts, he could plow some money into the Tribe (as an investment) and make more money AND have a winning team, but ... I'm not sure that that could really happen. It's easy to say; I'm not sure it's easy to do.

(Do the Dolans ever really say anything substantial one way or the other? Not sure I like meddling owners, but silent ones are a frustration.)

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Oh really

Lerner really dumb and maybe not as rich as we give him credit for

Well that really dumb guy just got a billion dollars richer.....

rusty2 wrote:Bottom line. Francona only came to Cleveland because of the front office. Indians get the number one free agent manager that was available.

Not exactly a ringing endorsement of assured success with The Tribe bringing Francona on.

"We got the best guy who would come to us."


I believe Francona was not all that marketable of a commodity with the unceremonious and controversial high profile end he had to his tenure in Boston.

I'll guess other front offices would have treated him like a hot potato, and Shapiro and Antonetti believed fans in Cleveland would find him OK.

Not sure how much time others here actually from the State of Ohio have lived and worked extensively in the grounds and states that Shapiro and Antonetti grew up and were educated in, but most people in the Northeastern US off the cuff consider people from Ohio to be generally pretty dim.

kenm wrote:Cleveland owners-Dolan dumb and cheap

Lerner really dumb and maybe not as rich as we give him credit for


Gilbert smart and rich but sometimes has to learn to shut up

Haslem a rich gas station operator

I'll just modify by noting that Gilbert is apparently an intense lifelong fan of the game of basketball and probably hungered to play if he had been dealt any height. Jimmy Haslam comes from a family that has eaten and breathed....and played....football.

Lerner could have seemingly cared less about football, and Dolan is simply an enigma.

I've noted before that Shapiro and Antonetti have little experience actually playing the game of baseball, one quitting in Middle School and one claiming to have played high school ball that I have not been able to document actually happened with my internet search skills.

Not sure how much time others here actually from the State of Ohio have lived and worked extensively in the grounds and states that Shapiro and Antonetti grew up and were educated in, but most people in the Northeastern US off the cuff consider people from Ohio to be generally pretty dim.

They actually consider most people from Ohio to be rural or farmers from my experience. I remember one night in New London at a late night breakfast place while waiting in line we were asked how many cows we owned ? Got nothing against cows or farmers ( I have spent a lot of time in barns)but just explained that we did not own any. Verbal abuse kept up. Basically they learned that night that Ohio does have a lot of mobsters and Golden Gloves champs.

Francona was the number one managerial candidate in all of major league baseball.

Nothing you are going to say is going to change that.

rusty2 wrote:Not sure how much time others here actually from the State of Ohio have lived and worked extensively in the grounds and states that Shapiro and Antonetti grew up and were educated in, but most people in the Northeastern US off the cuff consider people from Ohio to be generally pretty dim.

They actually consider most people from Ohio to be rural or farmers from my experience. I remember one night in New London at a late night breakfast place while waiting in line we were asked how many cows we owned ? Got nothing against cows or farmers ( I have spent a lot of time in barns)but just explained that we did not own any. Verbal abuse kept up. Basically they learned that night that Ohio does have a lot of mobsters and Golden Gloves champs.

Bingo.

I was in my first year of Law School at the University of Miami and was the only person in my class from Ohio. Most others had attended undergrad at East Coast schools north of Washington D.C., and most were at Miami because they did not get into the law school of their choice back home.

I applied to three Law Schools, one being Notre Dame, and was accepted at all three. I chose Miami (of Florida) because I liked warmth and girls in bikinis. I told people I accepted there because of their good Criminal Law program.

At the first parties when asked where I was from and I offered "Ohio," I truly was often asked, "oh, so you must have grown up near a lot of corn fields?"

"Nope, that would be IOWA."

"Oh, yeah that's right....it's the state with potato fields, right?"

"Nope, that would be IDAHO."

"Oh, yeah, you grew up near dairy farms?"

"Not really, though they were not too far away. Actually in the years I grew up there, about 5 million people lived within 55 minutes of my house."

"No way?" "In Iowa?"

"Nope, OHIO."

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